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Hi Zoe,

Thank you very much but I'm pretty sure it's not done with glide. On the
video I can see him hitting only the high C on the Minimoog,
not two keys. The "glide" starts low and the pitch increases until it
reaches that C. I'll play this song live and with right hand I need to play
the quick triplets on the organ so I'll only have one hand to do everything
else, just like hi does on the video.

Cheers,

Norbert


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if the minimoog keyboard has high note priority (i do not know that), the performer you say, probably he had hit low note (with its volume to zero) then he turns the volume up on the minimoog and he hits the high note he wants and hence the big glide to that high note....(assuming that the minimoog has portamento which i think it has...?) never had a minimoog....

 
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 From: Norbert Varga <norbert.hammond@gmail.com>
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Manfred Mann's Blinded By The Light "glide" effect
 

  
Hi Zoe,

Thank you very much but I'm pretty sure it's not done with glide. On the
video I can see him hitting only the high C on the Minimoog,
not two keys. The "glide" starts low and the pitch increases until it
reaches that C. I'll play this song live and with right hand I need to play
the quick triplets on the organ so I'll only have one hand to do everything
else, just like hi does on the video.

Cheers,

Norbert

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Hello

I doubt really, that this video is live at all. It is a TV-show, so it 
might be playback or at least halfplayback. To make the vibrato in the 
end of the sound he would have to touch the Modwheel, but he does not. 
So this is fake for sure.

And if it was live: You don't see his hand on the keyboard at all. He is 
playing the octave jump with the right hand, and you cannot judge what 
he is doing.

Soundwise I am definitely sure, that this is a simple portamento. The 
original Minimoog did not have envelope modulation for the VCOs.

If you want to do it with an envelope:
* Set the ADSR to A=0 D=4 S=10 R=0 (values from 0 to 10).
* Connect the ADSRs inverted out and feed it into CV2 input of an A110 
or A111.
* Listen to the VCO continuously (VCO out direct to your mixer/headphone).
* Turn up CV2 potentiometer. => now the VCO should be much lower if you 
press a key and return to normal frequency if you release a key.
* Now adjust CV2 to make the VCO jump down for one octave if you press a 
key.
* Then turn Sustain to 0 => Now each keypress should cause the VCO to 
make a slide from one octave below to normal tuning.



Florian

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http://fa.utfs.org/

Thank you Florian and Bakis, it must be the glide/portamento of the
Minimoog then...
I'll probably go for the envelope-solution anyway cause it's easier to
do it live. Thank you for the description Florian, you helped me a
lot!

Cheers,

Norbert

On 12 Oct 2012, at 13:08, Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:

> Hello
>
> I doubt really, that this video is live at all. It is a TV-show, so it might be playback or at least halfplayback. To make the vibrato in the end of the sound he would have to touch the Modwheel, but he does not. So this is fake for sure.
>
> And if it was live: You don't see his hand on the keyboard at all. He is playing the octave jump with the right hand, and you cannot judge what he is doing.
>
> Soundwise I am definitely sure, that this is a simple portamento. The original Minimoog did not have envelope modulation for the VCOs.
>
> If you want to do it with an envelope:
> * Set the ADSR to A=0 D=4 S=10 R=0 (values from 0 to 10).
> * Connect the ADSRs inverted out and feed it into CV2 input of an A110 or A111.
> * Listen to the VCO continuously (VCO out direct to your mixer/headphone).
> * Turn up CV2 potentiometer. => now the VCO should be much lower if you press a key and return to normal frequency if you release a key.
> * Now adjust CV2 to make the VCO jump down for one octave if you press a key.
> * Then turn Sustain to 0 => Now each keypress should cause the VCO to make a slide from one octave below to normal tuning.
>
>
>
> Florian
>
> --
> http://fa.utfs.org/

Hi Norbert

> I'll probably go for the envelope-solution anyway cause it's easier to
> do it live.
Yes. You don't have to do the CV2 amount that exact, as noone will 
recognize the VCO tune of the first nanosecond ;-)

On the otherhand: depending on your keyboard or MIDI-interface you might 
use a autoportamento, which is active only when you are playing legato, 
and is disable if you play portato.