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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?

2010-10-29 by richyho@btopenworld.com

Hi Bakis

Like you say, I was expecting the attenuator knob to give me 0 to 2x amplification, but it gives only 0 to 1x.

With offset at around 1 o'clock position (0V offset), +4V in, switch in attenuator mode and att. knob at 10 I get +v4V out.

Rich


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
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> the A183-2 is an attenuator/polarizer and offset generator.(and a x2 amplifier)
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> so, you say you want to make a +4volts input into a +4 to -4volts output, right?
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> so: you have set the JP3 jumper as dieter says (and now the offset knob gives you -5 to +5 volts offset), and have you set the switch to 'attenuator' position? this will give you a 0 - +2 amplification (0 - +8Volts output, from your input), if you set the 'attenuation' knob to the '10' position and the offset knob will take care of the negative offset you want (-4volts). for this you will have to set the offset knob to about the '1' position.
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> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
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> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
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> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
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> --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Richard Horsman <richyho@...> wrote:
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?

2010-10-29 by Richard Horsman

OK, so I bought one of these, moved the jumper but can't get the 2x amplification as mentioned here (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm):

"The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2 in the attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the maximum amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to amplify CV or audio signals"

In my example of +4V being the input voltage, that is the max voltage measured at the outputs trying all positions of knobs and switch.

Please can you let me know where I'm going wrong.

Thanks


> Hi all/Dieter
>
> I have a module that puts out voltages in the range 0 to +4V. I
> would like to offset and amplify this voltage range to -4 to +4V
> (that is amplify x2 and offset by -4V).
>
> Is this the right module to do this job?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard

Yes, but you have to change the position of the JP3 jumper. The factory
setting is 0...+5V offset (upper position of the jumper). You have to change
it to the lower position (-5V...+5V offset).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?

2010-10-29 by Bakis Sirros

the A183-2 is an attenuator/polarizer and offset generator.(and a x2 amplifier)

so, you say you want to make a +4volts input into a +4 to -4volts output, right?

so: you have set the JP3 jumper as dieter says (and now the offset knob gives you -5 to +5 volts offset), and have you set the switch to 'attenuator' position? this will give you a 0 - +2 amplification (0 - +8Volts output, from your input), if you set the 'attenuation' knob to the '10' position and the offset knob will take care of the negative offset you want (-4volts). for this you will have to set the offset knob to about the '1' position.

ok?

does it work now?




Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

--- On Fri, 10/29/10, Richard Horsman <richyho@virginmedia.com> wrote:
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From: Richard Horsman <richyho@virginmedia.com>
Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 9:19 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      OK, so I bought one of these, moved the jumper but can't get the 2x amplification as mentioned here (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm):



"The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2 in the attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the maximum amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to amplify CV or audio signals"



In my example of +4V being the input voltage, that is the max voltage measured at the outputs trying all positions of knobs and switch.



Please can you let me know where I'm going wrong.



Thanks



> Hi all/Dieter

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> I have a module that puts out voltages in the range 0 to +4V. I

> would like to offset and amplify this voltage range to -4 to +4V

> (that is amplify x2 and offset by -4V).

>

> Is this the right module to do this job?

>

> Thanks

>

> Richard



Yes, but you have to change the position of the JP3 jumper. The factory

setting is 0...+5V offset (upper position of the jumper). You have to change

it to the lower position (-5V...+5V offset).



Best wishes

Dieter Doepfer



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?

2010-10-29 by Bakis Sirros

hi Rich,

first of all: offset knob at '1' position (the 1 according to the scale that is marked on the module front panel) should give you -4 volts offset, not 0volts.

now, the a183-2 module should give x2 amplification, according to specs...

Dieter?



Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

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Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 10:14 PM







 



  


    
      
      
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Like you say, I was expecting the attenuator knob to give me 0 to 2x amplification, but it gives only 0 to 1x.



With offset at around 1 o'clock position (0V offset), +4V in, switch in attenuator mode and att. knob at 10 I get +v4V out.



Rich



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>

> the A183-2 is an attenuator/polarizer and offset generator.(and a x2 amplifier)

> 

> so, you say you want to make a +4volts input into a +4 to -4volts output, right?

> 

> so: you have set the JP3 jumper as dieter says (and now the offset knob gives you -5 to +5 volts offset), and have you set the switch to 'attenuator' position? this will give you a 0 - +2 amplification (0 - +8Volts output, from your input), if you set the 'attenuation' knob to the '10' position and the offset knob will take care of the negative offset you want (-4volts). for this you will have to set the offset knob to about the '1' position.

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> ok?

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> does it work now?

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> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

> 

> [Doepfer_a100] group owner

> 

> www. parallel - worlds - music. com

> 

> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

> 

> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

> 

> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

> 

> www. DiN. org. uk

> 

> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

> 

> www. vu-us. com

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> --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Richard Horsman <richyho@...> wrote:

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> From: Richard Horsman <richyho@...>

> Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?

> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 9:19 PM

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>       OK, so I bought one of these, moved the jumper but can't get the 2x amplification as mentioned here (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm):

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> "The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2 in the attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the maximum amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to amplify CV or audio signals"

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> In my example of +4V being the input voltage, that is the max voltage measured at the outputs trying all positions of knobs and switch.

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> Please can you let me know where I'm going wrong.

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> Thanks

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> > Hi all/Dieter

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> > I have a module that puts out voltages in the range 0 to +4V. I

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> > would like to offset and amplify this voltage range to -4 to +4V

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> > (that is amplify x2 and offset by -4V).

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> > Is this the right module to do this job?

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> > Thanks

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> > Richard

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> Yes, but you have to change the position of the JP3 jumper. The factory

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> setting is 0...+5V offset (upper position of the jumper). You have to change

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> it to the lower position (-5V...+5V offset).

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> Best wishes

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> Dieter Doepfer

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AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-183-2 suitable for this?

2010-11-02 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> OK, so I bought one of these, moved the jumper but can't get the
> 2x amplification as mentioned here (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm):
>
> "The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2 in
> the attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the
> maximum amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also
> to amplify CV or audio signals"
>
> In my example of +4V being the input voltage, that is the max
> voltage measured at the outputs trying all positions of knobs and switch.
>
> Please can you let me know where I'm going wrong.
>
> Thanks

Richard,

I took a look at an A-183-2 module taken from our shipping department. You
are right, the max. amplification is only ~ 1. I found the error: there is a
resistor R2 with a value 100K printed on the pcb. We changed the value of
this resistor later to 50k (47k) to obtain a maximal amplification of ~ 2
(but the silk screen on the pcv was not changed and still reads 100k).
Obviously the assembly company used the value 100k (printed on the pcb)
instead of the modified value 50k(47k) specified in the assembly documents.
I'm very sorry for this error and will instruct our assembly company to use
the correct value (50/47k) in the future.

If you are able to add a resistor there is a simple solution: solder another
100k resistor in parallel to the existing R2 on the bottom of the pcb. This
lowers the total value to 50k. R2 is located between the input socket and
the upper output socket.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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