DOEPFER at NAMM 2010
2010-01-24 by okmog
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2010-01-24 by okmog
It was released two days ago: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2010/01/22/wnamm10-doepfer-diy-synth-and-more/ BTW another interesting video about Dieter Doepfer themselves: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/09/19/dieter-doepfer-totally-wired/
2010-01-24 by Мясоедов Михаил
I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth? Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff. Mikhail P.S. this is my first post, so I'm very glad to meet you here!
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:37 PM, okmog wrote: > It was released two days ago: > http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2010/01/22/wnamm10-doepfer-diy-synth-and-more/ > > BTW another interesting video about Dieter Doepfer themselves: > http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/09/19/dieter-doepfer-totally-wired/ > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2010-01-24 by Bakis Sirros
welcome aboard Mikhail! Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com www. shimarecords. co. uk --- On Mon, 1/25/10, Мясоедов Михаил <naoki.apri@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Мясоедов Михаил <naoki.apri@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:31 AM
I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth?
Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff.
Mikhail
P.S. this is my first post, so I'm very glad to meet you here!
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:37 PM, okmog wrote:
> It was released two days ago:
> http://www.sonicsta te.com/news/ 2010/01/22/ wnamm10-doepfer- diy-synth- and-more/
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> BTW another interesting video about Dieter Doepfer themselves:
> http://www.sonicsta te.com/news/ 2009/09/19/ dieter-doepfer- totally-wired/
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-01-25 by Florian Anwander
Hi Mikhail, > I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth? > Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff. Not a stupid question at all. Basically yes, but it would be always like the Oberheim SEM based two/four/eight/voice synths, with individual controls for each voice. Also an important part is missing: you still need a keyboard or a midi-interface, that provides polyphonic CV/Gate. Florian
2010-01-25 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com
Florian, Assuming that each board is set-up the same is there any reason why 4 boards can not be wired to single set of controls and sockets? David * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * David Salter Senior Consultant SSG UKI Thomson Reuters O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402 M 07990562402 david.salter@thomsonreuters.com thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________
From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Florian Anwander Sent: 25 January 2010 09:25 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010 Hi Mikhail, > I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth? > Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff. Not a stupid question at all. Basically yes, but it would be always like the Oberheim SEM based two/four/eight/voice synths, with individual controls for each voice. Also an important part is missing: you still need a keyboard or a midi-interface, that provides polyphonic CV/Gate. Florian This email was sent to you by Thomson Reuters, the global news and information company. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Thomson Reuters. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-01-25 by Мясоедов Михаил
Thanks for reply! May be the solution is to wire 1 knob to 4 boards in parallel. Is it possible? Mikhail
On 25.01.2010, at 12:24, Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi Mikhail, > > >> I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth? >> Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff. > Not a stupid question at all. > Basically yes, but it would be always like the Oberheim SEM based > two/four/eight/voice synths, with individual controls for each voice. > Also an important part is missing: you still need a keyboard or a > midi-interface, that provides polyphonic CV/Gate. > > Florian > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2010-01-25 by Florian Anwander
Hello David > Assuming that each board is set-up the same is there any reason why 4 > boards can not be wired to single set of controls and sockets? Only the VCF Cutoff, and the VCO tuning are direct voltage controlled parameters. All parameters of envelope, LFO, and all modulation-amounts, levels mixing potentiometers, switches are direct parts in the circuitry and cannot be controlled by a CV (which is essential for a single controlset). You might use fourfolded potentiometers, but these are around $20 each... Or you would build a huge pcb with additional VCAs and CV Switches. Florian
2010-01-25 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com
Thanks Florian David * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * David Salter Senior Consultant SSG UKI Thomson Reuters O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402 M 07990562402 david.salter@thomsonreuters.com thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________
From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Florian Anwander Sent: 25 January 2010 10:14 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010 Hello David > Assuming that each board is set-up the same is there any reason why 4 > boards can not be wired to single set of controls and sockets? Only the VCF Cutoff, and the VCO tuning are direct voltage controlled parameters. All parameters of envelope, LFO, and all modulation-amounts, levels mixing potentiometers, switches are direct parts in the circuitry and cannot be controlled by a CV (which is essential for a single controlset). You might use fourfolded potentiometers, but these are around $20 each... Or you would build a huge pcb with additional VCAs and CV Switches. Florian This email was sent to you by Thomson Reuters, the global news and information company. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Thomson Reuters. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-01-25 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth? > Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff. > > Mikhail The new version of the TKB shown at NAMM is fully polyphonic. The prototype worked perfect at NAMM. Now we have to decide how the TKB will be manufactured: 1. Which layout type (musical keyboard layout yes/no) ? 2. If most customers say "no" to 1: which shape (rectangle, triangle, round, octagon, special shape ...), which dimension, which arrangement (one row, two or more rows, displacement between the rows, more the Buchla style of arrangement) and how many pads ? 3. Stand alone unit (separate box) or module or stand alone box connected via a cable to the adapter module ? I'll prepare some shape and arrangement types that were suggested at NAMM by visitors. It will take a few days. Then we could start a final poll. We will be able to manufacture only one version and I hope that there will be sufficient agreement for one version so that it makes sense for us to start the production. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2010-01-25 by Bakis Sirros
great! waiting for poll instructions, Dieter. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com www. shimarecords. co. uk --- On Mon, 1/25/10, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 2:25 PM
> I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth?
> Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff.
>
> Mikhail
The new version of the TKB shown at NAMM is fully polyphonic.
The prototype worked perfect at NAMM. Now we have to decide how the TKB will
be manufactured:
1. Which layout type (musical keyboard layout yes/no) ?
2. If most customers say "no" to 1: which shape (rectangle, triangle, round,
octagon, special shape ...), which dimension, which arrangement (one row,
two or more rows, displacement between the rows, more the Buchla style of
arrangement) and how many pads ?
3. Stand alone unit (separate box) or module or stand alone box connected
via a cable to the adapter module ?
I'll prepare some shape and arrangement types that were suggested at NAMM by
visitors. It will take a few days. Then we could start a final poll. We will
be able to manufacture only one version and I hope that there will be
sufficient agreement for one version so that it makes sense for us to start
the production.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-06-01 by Jacob C.
Hi everyone What's the status for the TKB? /Jacob --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> > great! > waiting for poll instructions, Dieter. > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist > > www. DiN. org. uk > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com > > www. vu-us. com > > www. shimarecords. co. uk > > --- On Mon, 1/25/10, yahoo@... <yahoo@...> wrote: > > From: yahoo@... <yahoo@...> > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010 > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 2:25 PM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder can this boards used to build the polyphonic synth? > > > Sorry, if it sounds stupid, I'm really new to all this stuff. > > > > > > Mikhail > > > > The new version of the TKB shown at NAMM is fully polyphonic. > > > > The prototype worked perfect at NAMM. Now we have to decide how the TKB will > > be manufactured: > > > > 1. Which layout type (musical keyboard layout yes/no) ? > > > > 2. If most customers say "no" to 1: which shape (rectangle, triangle, round, > > octagon, special shape ...), which dimension, which arrangement (one row, > > two or more rows, displacement between the rows, more the Buchla style of > > arrangement) and how many pads ? > > > > 3. Stand alone unit (separate box) or module or stand alone box connected > > via a cable to the adapter module ? > > > > I'll prepare some shape and arrangement types that were suggested at NAMM by > > visitors. It will take a few days. Then we could start a final poll. We will > > be able to manufacture only one version and I hope that there will be > > sufficient agreement for one version so that it makes sense for us to start > > the production. > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2010-06-01 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Hi everyone > > What's the status for the TKB? > > /Jacob still under development. Everything is now working as it should but we have not yet decided the dimension, shape, arrangement and number of the touch pads. Everyone wants a different version but we will be able to manufacture only one. The final decision which version will be released is still pending. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2010-06-01 by Bakis Sirros
hmm, another poll maybe...? :-) Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com --- On Tue, 6/1/10, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:26 PM
> Hi everyone
>
> What's the status for the TKB?
>
> /Jacob
still under development. Everything is now working as it should but we have
not yet decided the dimension, shape, arrangement and number of the touch
pads. Everyone wants a different version but we will be able to manufacture
only one. The final decision which version will be released is still
pending.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-06-01 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> hmm, another poll maybe...? :-) > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist Maybe, but I have no idea how to arrange that because of the many possibilities ... Dieter Doepfer
2010-06-01 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com
Hi Dieter, I'd be interested in the overall spec that you have decided upon, minus obviously the points you raised earlier. Thanks David * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * David Salter Senior Consultant SSG UKI Thomson Reuters O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402 M 07990562402 david.salter@thomsonreuters.com thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________
From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of yahoo@doepfer.de Sent: 01 June 2010 15:23 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010 > hmm, another poll maybe...? :-) > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist Maybe, but I have no idea how to arrange that because of the many possibilities ... Dieter Doepfer This email was sent to you by Thomson Reuters, the global news and information company. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Thomson Reuters. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-06-04 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Hi Dieter, > > I'd be interested in the overall spec that you have decided upon, minus > obviously the points you raised earlier. > > Thanks > > David This is the current state: we have a prototype available that could be connected to any desired number of pads (currently up to 16 but could be expanded to 32, 48 ...). Dimension, shape and arrangement of the pads could be chosen because the electronics does kind of auto-adjustement after power on (i.e. it measures the capacitance of each pad in the neutral state and stores this value as a reference to detect if a pad is touched. Though we tested not all imaginable pad dimensions and shapes virtually a lot of version are possible (large/small pads, musical keybord layout, round/rectangle/triangle/octagon shapes, linear, several rows or matrix arrangements, and so on ...). Our prototype outputs midi but it would be no problem to add a CV/gate output. Though many users don't like it I think midi is most versatily output because you can derive anything you want from this data (e.g. single gate outputs, monophonic or polyphonic CV outputs, controls for the CV assigned to each pad and so on). Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2010-06-04 by Bakis Sirros
so, maybe i should start 4 separate TKS polls: one for number of steps(8,16, 24, 32 ?), one for shape of touch plates (round, hexagon, rectangular?), one for keyboard layout or not keyboard layout, and one for midi plus cv/gate out or only cv/.gate outs? Dieter? Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com --- On Fri, 6/4/10, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 12:02 PM
> Hi Dieter,
>
> I'd be interested in the overall spec that you have decided upon, minus
> obviously the points you raised earlier.
>
> Thanks
>
> David
This is the current state: we have a prototype available that could be
connected to any desired number of pads (currently up to 16 but could be
expanded to 32, 48 ...). Dimension, shape and arrangement of the pads could
be chosen because the electronics does kind of auto-adjustement after power
on (i.e. it measures the capacitance of each pad in the neutral state and
stores this value as a reference to detect if a pad is touched. Though we
tested not all imaginable pad dimensions and shapes virtually a lot of
version are possible (large/small pads, musical keybord layout,
round/rectangle/triangle/octagon shapes, linear, several rows or matrix
arrangements, and so on ...). Our prototype outputs midi but it would be no
problem to add a CV/gate output. Though many users don't like it I think
midi is most versatily output because you can derive anything you want from
this data (e.g. single gate outputs, monophonic or polyphonic CV outputs,
controls for the CV assigned to each pad and so on).
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-06-04 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> so, maybe i should start 4 separate TKS polls: > > one for number of steps(8,16, 24, 32 ?), one for shape of touch > plates (round, hexagon, rectangular?), one for keyboard layout or > not keyboard layout, > and one for midi plus cv/gate out or only cv/.gate outs? > > Dieter? Yes, this will help. I know that most of the customers will not obtain the version of the TKB they want to have because there are too many different perceptions concerning the layout of the pads (for this we would have to manufacture several versions). Another solution would be to offer the main board without pads and e.g. one or two 16 pin connector that are sed to connect the passive pcb board that contains the pads only. In this case users could built their own pads as a DIY project who are not happy with the pad board(s) we offer. I could imagine that we offer two pad boards: one with musical keyboard layout and one with e.g. several octagon pads. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2010-06-04 by Bakis Sirros
ok, will prepare the 4 polls soon! Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com --- On Fri, 6/4/10, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 1:28 PM
> so, maybe i should start 4 separate TKS polls:
>
> one for number of steps(8,16, 24, 32 ?), one for shape of touch
> plates (round, hexagon, rectangular?), one for keyboard layout or
> not keyboard layout,
> and one for midi plus cv/gate out or only cv/.gate outs?
>
> Dieter?
Yes, this will help. I know that most of the customers will not obtain the version of the TKB they want to have because there are too many different perceptions concerning the layout of the pads (for this we would have to manufacture several versions). Another solution would be to offer the main board without pads and e.g. one or two 16 pin connector that are sed to connect the passive pcb board that contains the pads only. In this case users could built their own pads as a DIY project who are not happy with the pad board(s) we offer. I could imagine that we offer two pad boards: one with musical keyboard layout and one with e.g. several octagon pads.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-06-04 by Bakis Sirros
all polls ready! do i need to repeat to all the group members that you should vote, please!!!?? Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com --- On Fri, 6/4/10, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER at NAMM 2010
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 1:28 PM
> so, maybe i should start 4 separate TKS polls:
>
> one for number of steps(8,16, 24, 32 ?), one for shape of touch
> plates (round, hexagon, rectangular?), one for keyboard layout or
> not keyboard layout,
> and one for midi plus cv/gate out or only cv/.gate outs?
>
> Dieter?
Yes, this will help. I know that most of the customers will not obtain the version of the TKB they want to have because there are too many different perceptions concerning the layout of the pads (for this we would have to manufacture several versions). Another solution would be to offer the main board without pads and e.g. one or two 16 pin connector that are sed to connect the passive pcb board that contains the pads only. In this case users could built their own pads as a DIY project who are not happy with the pad board(s) we offer. I could imagine that we offer two pad boards: one with musical keyboard layout and one with e.g. several octagon pads.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-06-04 by Florian Anwander
hi Bakis, I voted, but I wanted to mention, that the "does not matter" check box, does not make much sense, because I think Dieter needs a overview over our opinions - and "no opionion" would not be a helpful outcome. ;-) Maybe itis possible to make a vote with two or for alternative selections for the question: "I would prefer this solution" and an additional checkbox for "nevertheless it wouldn't matter really for me". Florian
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015693 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015687 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015686 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015685
2010-06-04 by Bakis Sirros
hi Florian, yes, i could allow more than one votes, but i think the polls are also ok as they are... thanks, best regards, Bakis. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:
From: Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de>
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Polls Touchkeyboard
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 2:20 PM
hi Bakis,
I voted, but I wanted to mention, that the "does not matter" check box,
does not make much sense, because I think Dieter needs a overview over
our opinions - and "no opionion" would not be a helpful outcome. ;-)
Maybe itis possible to make a vote with two or for alternative
selections for the question: "I would prefer this solution" and an
additional checkbox for "nevertheless it wouldn't matter really for me".
Florian
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015693
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015687
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015686
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13015685
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