I did some various patches and took screen captures of them. I don't seem to manage to attache the files so I put them in my dropbox: Doepfer Doepfer Shared with Dropbox View on www.dropbox.com Preview by Yahoo Hopefully the naming convention I used is clear. Otherwise please ask.MAVCA = Manhattan Analog VCA.Again I used the Saw Wave on the A111.Some different results now I guess.Best regards, Karel.