Doepfer

Thanks Florian!

All the methods you mention seem very interesting, however I don't have the Trigger Modifier module, so I've never been able to experiment with that.  Perhaps I ought to find or build one and try it.  

If you'd like to publish your ideas for shuffle, I could link to your post on mine.  Or I can add your ideas to my post and credit you, or write a new post and credit you. 

If I understand correctly (I haven't looked at the A-165 manual yet), the second A-162/142 is simply for creating a pulse of a certain length....a trigger combiner of some kind is still necessary?  

I've actually modified my A-162 quite a bit, giving it "Mix" outputs which combine the input and output signals through diodes, as well as fast/med/slow selectors for the delays and lengths, Vactrol control sockets, and unit one can feed into unit two and provide four pulses at Mix2 Out.  A bit crazy, but just having the first "Mix Out" allows me to create variable (manual and Vactrol control) shuffle with just that one sub module of the A-162 and a clock source. Obviously I need a Vactrol module too if desired.  I chose leave that out if this blog post so as not to confuse any potential readers.  It is not a necessary modification, more a compulsion :D
Http://i.imgur.com/XeoA9pr.jpg


Nick 


> On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:18 AM, "Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Nick
> 
> Great blog post!
> 
> When I read your post, another method to create a shuffled clock came to 
> my mind:
> 
> Any LFO -> A-162(1) Trigger Delay -> A-165 Trigger Modifier +/-Out -> 
> A-162(2) Trigger Delay (or A-142-1)
> 
> Or
> 
> Any LFO -> A-142-1 Voltage Controlled Decay/Gate -> A-165 Trigger 
> Modifier +/-Out -> A-162(2) Trigger Delay (or A-142-1)
> 
> Or
> 
> LFO with variable Pulsewidth -> A-165 Trigger Modifier +/-Out -> A-162 
> Trigger Delay (or A-142-1)
> 
> All these methods have in common: The first trigger delay (or the 
> VC-Gate) creates a controllable pulse length for the LFO - it should be 
> more than 50%. This non-symmetrical pulse is converted into two spikes 
> by the Trigger Modifier. The second Trigger Delay creates the two 
> triggers wich are used for the sequencer steps (and eventually as gate 
> for the envelopes).
> 
> And btw, you are asking in your post:
> > Perhaps ratios <50% are techincally known by another name?
> Yes there is a name for. It is called "stumbling" ;-)
> To be honest: shuffle / swing ratios less than 50% are not interesting 
> from the musical point of view.
> 
> Florian
> 
> Am 11.11.2014 04:10, schrieb Nicholas Keller maq163x2@gmail.com 
> [Doepfer_a100]:
> >
> >
> > http://niroke.blogspot.com/2014/11/more-155-tricks-way-to-shuffle-your.html?m=1
> 
>