> hi all! > just curious about possibly anomalous behavior i've noticed... in > addition to my A100 rig, i also have another separate keyboard > setup that includes a "micro-modular" system based on a Dark > Time/Energy combo expanded with 2 mini-cases of modules, > including 2 A110 oscillators (more portable than the 5 G6 racks > ^_^ ). I have the Time controlling the Energy over MIDI, with the > CV1 output of the Energy controlling the 110s. the problem is the > tuning on the 110s is offset from the tuning on the Energy: with > the Energy's VCO tuning knob at 12 o'clock (which is in tune with > MIDI, i.e. root key is "C"), the 2 110s have to have their tuning > pots turned almost fully clockwise to be in unison tune with the > Energy. this is a consistent offset even when i change control to > all 3 running from the CV out of the Time instead of the MIDI > control (Time->CV->Energy & 110s instead of > Time->MIDI->Energy->CV->110s), though that adds the additional > separate phenomenon that root pitch on the Time is also off: i.e. > root "C" is when the Time's knobs are at approximately 12 o'clock > instead of full counter-clockwise as when i use MIDI (again this > is a completely separate issue from the 110 tuning offset > phenomenon - this also makes MIDI key control into the Time > offset as well, i.e. i hit a "C" on the MIDI keyboard and the > Time outputs CV for a lower "F#" or so). note: when the 110s were > part of the big A100 their tuning consistency was fine (12 > o'clock=unison), so it's not the 110's fault. > maybe the CV out calibration on the Energy is a little off? and > maybe the Time also? > just curious if anyone else has noticed such behavior, or if it's > isolated to my particular units. > i hope i made all that as clear as possible :-) as i said it's a > couple totally separate issues: > 1) tuning offset between Energy & 110s > 2) tuning offset difference between Time MIDI out vs. Time CV out) > that then interact to create a compounded dysfunction. thanks in > advance for any comments or advice. > Be Seeing You! > --chris The problem is probably caused by the simple power supply used in the A-100 miniature cases. The standard power supplies of the "big" cases is adjusted to exactly +/- 12.00V. The power supply built into the A-100 miniature cases uses simple voltage regulators (7812, 7912) that cannot be adjusted and have some tolerances (typ. +/- 11.5 ... 12.5V). As the absolute pitch of the A-110 is affected by the supply voltage this is probably the reason why the tuning of the A-110 is a bit off the Dark Energy. If you own an A-100 standard case (A-100G6, A-100P6/P9, A-100LC6/LC9 or any monster case) you may try this out. I'd expect that the A-110 is in tune with the Dark Energy when it's powered by one of these cases. But there is a simple solution: adjust the trimming potentiometer P6 (VCO offset) on the A-110 board so that the A-110 is in tune with the Dark Energy VCO (i.e. with the manual frequency controls at the front panels of both units in center position). Details on our website: www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > Module Overview > A-110 > service manual If you only touch P6 nothing can go wrong. But do not change the position of any other trimming potentiometer. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Dark Energy/Time/A110 tuning discrepancy
2011-10-13 by yahoo@doepfer.de
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