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ABW settings

2006-11-19 by trrekrider

I am having an issue with the ABW option.  I have a R2400 but I am not
able to access the ABW settings when I have slected any paper type
besides Premium Luster, Semi-gloss or Gloss.  The option is "grayed"
out and unavailable when any matte, VFA or ultra smooth paper type is
slected.  I have made sure that either "best photo" or "RPM" is also
slected.  Any ideas or comments would be appreciated.

trekrider

RE: [Digital BW] ABW settings

2006-11-19 by Eric Neilsen

Photo Black installed? 

 

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I am having an issue with the ABW option. I have a R2400 but I am not
able to access the ABW settings when I have slected any paper type
besides Premium Luster, Semi-gloss or Gloss. The option is "grayed"
out and unavailable when any matte, VFA or ultra smooth paper type is
slected. I have made sure that either "best photo" or "RPM" is also
slected. Any ideas or comments would be appreciated.

trekrider

 



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ABW settings

2017-06-14 by goch@...

1) Has anyone worked out the zero point, if there is one, for colour tones with Epson ABW? That is, what "advanced" settings (if any) with ABW would achieve the exalted state of black-only printing?


"Warm" uses settings of 20 vertical (toward yellow) and 4 horizontal (toward the R/M side).


Dead centre (0,0) is supposed to be relatively neutral visually, but that requires both Y & M, I think, to neutralize the natural warmth of the carbon blacks.


2) A second, related question: Is there an easy (or any!) way to determine the colour contributions in ABW "advanced" settings? A time-consuming, qualitative method would be to make prints of a grey scale and examine them under a microscope to see whether Y and/or M dots are present. (I don't have a microscope. . . what magnification would be best for the project, assuming you print at 1440? I suspect that the driver does not make toning dependent on print resolution, so a lower resolution might make this easier.)


Ideally, someone would have created a program that accepts the output of the print driver and decodes it into ink jet instructions, at least to the extent that we could determine whether the colour jets were being used.


Myron



Re: [Digital BW] ABW settings

2017-06-14 by Mark Savoia

This is what I am using to get a pretty good black and white. Epson UC inks, P9000 printer



Mark
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Re: ABW settings

2017-06-14 by lgebhardt@...

I have not spent a ton of time using ABW. But I did make some curves for QTR that only use the K, LK and LLK inks. I did not really care for the color of them and accepted that I need some M and C to make them pleasing to my eye. You may want to test that out with QTR to see if you like the look of the black only prints before you spend a ton of time in ABW trying to get there.

If you have a flatbed scanner or a macro lens you can easily image the dots to see exactly what's printing. A scan at 2400ppi works well.

With QTR to get a warm tone (matching old Forte Poly Warmtone) on the 7900 I didn't use any yellow ink. I would hope ABW isn't adding yellow unless you try for a warmer tone than the black inks. If it is I would definitely switch over to QTR since the yellow inks are the least stable.

Larry

Re: [Digital BW] Re: ABW settings

2017-06-14 by Paul Roark


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I would hope ABW isn't adding yellow unless you try for a warmer tone than the black inks. If it is I would definitely switch over to QTR since the yellow inks are the least stable.


​Aardenburg Imaging tests of, for example, HPR with Epson K3 in ABW mode "Warm" shows at 90 Mlux-hrs a 50% midtone test patch Lab B fade going from 3.0 to 1.8. That is almost certainly the yellow fading.

Stay with QTR for the best longevity and avoid yellow to the extent possible.

Paul

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