Digital BW, The Print

So I have this old 1280 that's been working like a charm. I have this
big show coming up Saturday and Sunday that I have to hang tommorow
night and suddenly the printer is giving me what appears to be roller
lines. Not the banding thing from that can be fixed by head cleaning
but something else. Seems like it's worst when I'm printing using
black only. I just printed a small color image that looks fine but the
BO prints are looking bad and 90% of what I'm showing is BW.  Any
ideas or suggestions. Fortunately I have a new 1800 still in a box but
I had planned to trade that in for something bigger. I'd rather not
use it but I have to have everything done by tomorrow evening for hanging.

Any thoughts much appreciated.

Tim p.s. I tried printing the BW images in the full color mode and it
gives it a blueish tint.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Timmermans"
<zenphoto7@...> wrote:
>
<snip>
> suddenly the printer is giving me what appears to be roller
> lines. Not the banding thing from that can be fixed by head cleaning
> but something else.
<snip>

Do you mean 'pizza wheel' marks/lines?

If so there are some suggestions on 
http://www.conde.com/support/5.php?support=home
for removing them. Obviously the decision to do this would be yours...

If it's the rubber rollers leaving marks then have you used any fine
art paper recently: some of these can leave fine white dust on the
rollers which will need cleaning off with a cleaning sheet or other
methods.

The only other thing that comes to mind is if you've changed ink
limits or print settings recently such that too much ink is being
applied to the paper, so it's not having enough time to dry before
being fed through the output rollers.

I don't have a 1270, and my 1200 is long gone, but the only time I've
seen this recently is with my 2400, when feeding the same sheet
through the printer 2 or more times in an attempt to get several
calibration prints on one page. This obviously doesn't apply to your
situation.

HTH

Alan

First of all make sure that the paper thickness lever is set to + .

Then you need to clean the metal disc shaped guides at the botton
inside of this machine with windex and a lint free cloth. Be very
careful not to bend them though. I suspect you have ink build up
inside that printer. Take a strong light and look up inside the
carrage and carefully get rid of any accumulated ink in there. That
was always my problem with these older machines. If you run a print
and it doesn't get pulled into the printer correctly the heads spray
ink inside the printer and that builds up and eventually ends up on
your prints.

john




-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "Tim Timmermans"
<zenphoto7@...> wrote:
>
> So I have this old 1280 that's been working like a charm. I have this
> big show coming up Saturday and Sunday that I have to hang tommorow
> night and suddenly the printer is giving me what appears to be roller
> lines. Not the banding thing from that can be fixed by head cleaning
> but something else. Seems like it's worst when I'm printing using
> black only. I just printed a small color image that looks fine but the
> BO prints are looking bad and 90% of what I'm showing is BW.  Any
> ideas or suggestions. Fortunately I have a new 1800 still in a box but
> I had planned to trade that in for something bigger. I'd rather not
> use it but I have to have everything done by tomorrow evening for
hanging.

> 
> Any thoughts much appreciated.
> 
> Tim p.s. I tried printing the BW images in the full color mode and it
> gives it a blueish tint.
>

You can remove the pizza wheels like this:
http://www.inkjetart.com/pizza/index.html
and get rid of roller marks:
http://tinyurl.com/2b24o

I used these procedures on my 1270 (pizza wheels) and 2200 (rollers  
and pizza wheels) and they work fine.

On Apr 20, 2006, at 8:08 AM, alanrew42 wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Timmermans"
> <zenphoto7@...> wrote:
>>
> <snip>
>> suddenly the printer is giving me what appears to be roller
>> lines. Not the banding thing from that can be fixed by head cleaning
>> but something else.
> <snip>
>
> Do you mean 'pizza wheel' marks/lines?
>
> If so there are some suggestions on
> http://www.conde.com/support/5.php?support=home
> for removing them. Obviously the decision to do this would be yours...
>
> If it's the rubber rollers leaving marks then have you used any fine
> art paper recently: some of these can leave fine white dust on the
> rollers which will need cleaning off with a cleaning sheet or other
> methods.
>
> The only other thing that comes to mind is if you've changed ink
> limits or print settings recently such that too much ink is being
> applied to the paper, so it's not having enough time to dry before
> being fed through the output rollers.
>
> I don't have a 1270, and my 1200 is long gone, but the only time I've
> seen this recently is with my 2400, when feeding the same sheet
> through the printer 2 or more times in an attempt to get several
> calibration prints on one page. This obviously doesn't apply to your
> situation.
>
> HTH
>
> Alan

First of all thanks guys for the quick response. What a tremendous
resource of knowledge and talent there is on this list. Thank you.

Update is this...I don't have the time for all the fixes right now so
I whipped out this new 1800 I had planned to trade in. Desperate times
require desperate measures.

There's a ton of setting choices on this unit that are new to me so
I'm asking you to maybe share your favorite settings for color and BW
using Epson and Premier Art Semigloss and Matte papers (mostly the
semigloss)

There are speed choices, gloss options, vivid, standard options etc.

I need to get the best prints possible out of this thing asap.

Thanks again fellas.

Tim
If you're so inclined you can call me toll free with advice at

800 392 3105  THANKS!!!

I'll tell you one thing Tim. I've been a very serious fine art printer
for 20 years and I wouldn't begin to even dream of whipping out a show
of any serious work at the last second like that. No matter what
system you use you can expect trouble. It just isn't that easy. Good luck.

John




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Timmermans"
<zenphoto7@...> wrote:

>
> First of all thanks guys for the quick response. What a tremendous
> resource of knowledge and talent there is on this list. Thank you.
> 
> Update is this...I don't have the time for all the fixes right now so
> I whipped out this new 1800 I had planned to trade in. Desperate times
> require desperate measures.
> 
> There's a ton of setting choices on this unit that are new to me so
> I'm asking you to maybe share your favorite settings for color and BW
> using Epson and Premier Art Semigloss and Matte papers (mostly the
> semigloss)
> 
> There are speed choices, gloss options, vivid, standard options etc.
> 
> I need to get the best prints possible out of this thing asap.
> 
> Thanks again fellas.
> 
> Tim
> If you're so inclined you can call me toll free with advice at
> 
> 800 392 3105  THANKS!!!
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
<deanwork2003@...> wrote:
>
> I'll tell you one thing Tim. I've been a very serious fine art printer
> for 20 years and I wouldn't begin to even dream of whipping out a show
> of any serious work at the last second like that. 

I agree John. I'm actually pretty close to done. Just finishing up the
last print. Frames are ready to go..couple of hours of framing. The
show itself is Saturday and Sunday so I have plenty of time for cards,
statements etc.

but yes...I do tend to do things at the last minute and it will come
up to bite me one day.

thanks

Tim

A relatively quick way to get rid of pizza wheels without actually 
removing them is to clean them thoroughly using windex. Somehow ink 
finds its way onto the wheels, dries up, and cause enough drag to 
scrape the surface of the print.

I'd push a scrap piece of up-side-down glossy print into the printer 
from the front under the pizza wheels and deposit drops of windex 
onto the wheels that cause problems and let it soak, and occasionally 
jiggle the paper back and forth to free up the wheels. Cotton swabs 
may also help.

--nick

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@...> wrote:

>
> 
> You can remove the pizza wheels like this:
> http://www.inkjetart.com/pizza/index.html
> and get rid of roller marks:
> http://tinyurl.com/2b24o
> 
> ...