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UT7 and 7600 and QTR (Mac)

UT7 and 7600 and QTR (Mac)

2004-12-16 by sandersm@aol.com

Greetings, all.

I've been printing happily with a 7600 and the Epson UC inkset, using QTR on 
a Mac.   After reading the recent chatter here about Paul Roark's experience 
with Semi-Matte paper and the UT inkset, it got me to rethink whether I should 
revisit my paper choice.   

To Roy Harrington, and Paul, and others using the UT inkset on a 7600:   Is 
it possible to control the 7600 with QTR when using the UT7 inkset?   I have 
come to love QTR's ability to tone prints by mixing warm and cool curves in the 
RIP.   

If QTR will not work with a 7600 running UT7 inks, then how does one control 
image tone with this printer and ink combination?

Thanks in advance to all who help.

Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net


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RE: [Digital BW] UT7 and 7600 and QTR (Mac)

2004-12-16 by Paul Roark

Sanders,

I can't speak to QTR and the UT7 inkset, but I'm almost sure QTR could
control the inks very well.

I use the Epson driver with the driver's sliders or Photoshop curves to
control inksets.  The UT7 in the 7600 is just like the ut7 in the 2200.  For
more on that combination, see
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT-2200-Readme.htm.  Bill Schwab has been
writing curves for the 7600.  His website is at
http://www.billschwab.com/digital_bw.html.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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Subject: [Digital BW] UT7 and 7600 and QTR (Mac)


Greetings, all.

I've been printing happily with a 7600 and the Epson UC inkset, using QTR on

a Mac.   After reading the recent chatter here about Paul Roark's experience

with Semi-Matte paper and the UT inkset, it got me to rethink whether I
should 
revisit my paper choice.   

To Roy Harrington, and Paul, and others using the UT inkset on a 7600:   Is 
it possible to control the 7600 with QTR when using the UT7 inkset?   I have

come to love QTR's ability to tone prints by mixing warm and cool curves in
the 
RIP.   

If QTR will not work with a 7600 running UT7 inks, then how does one control

image tone with this printer and ink combination?

Thanks in advance to all who help.

Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net


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Re: [Digital BW] UT7 and 7600 and QTR (Mac)

2004-12-22 by James Haney

I am using QTR on Mac OSX with UT7 inks.

I created my own Cool and Sepia curves for HPR and mix them 50-50 for a 
Neutral Print.

I am very happy with the results and have produced a couple hundred 
prints this way for customers since August.

I have been using UC inks in a 2200 with QTR during the same period.

The 2200/UC combo is nice and indeed neutral with no meteramism, but 
much more visible dithering.

The UT7 inkset is very nice, but still has some barely visible 
dithering near the 10-20% tones.

Overall I was more impressed with the original UT inkset I experimented 
with in the spring since it provided 4 neutral inks to partition the 
Grey rather than the 3 greys of the UT7 inks.

I have been considering going back to using Piezotone inks in the 7600. 
Museum or Portfolio Black with both the Carbon Sepia and Selenium set. 
I am just unsure that a mix of the two would yield a nice neutral and I 
don't want to mess up a system that finally seems to be working well.

The process of creating your own curves for QTR is not exactly simple, 
but it isn't brain surgery either. The documentation is accurate, but 
easy to misinterpret. Trust me, read it all through several times and 
ask lots of questions on-line before proceeding and wasting a lot of 
time and materials.

Good luck.

James Haney
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On Dec 16, 2004, at 5:34 PM, sandersm@... wrote:

>
> Greetings, all.
>
> I've been printing happily with a 7600 and the Epson UC inkset, using 
> QTR on
> a Mac.   After reading the recent chatter here about Paul Roark's 
> experience
> with Semi-Matte paper and the UT inkset, it got me to rethink whether 
> I should
> revisit my paper choice.
>
> To Roy Harrington, and Paul, and others using the UT inkset on a 7600: 
>   Is
> it possible to control the 7600 with QTR when using the UT7 inkset?   
> I have
> come to love QTR's ability to tone prints by mixing warm and cool 
> curves in the
> RIP.
>
> If QTR will not work with a 7600 running UT7 inks, then how does one 
> control
> image tone with this printer and ink combination?
>
> Thanks in advance to all who help.
>
> Sanders McNew
> www.mcnew.net
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> resources as they are often being updated.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish 
> to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting 
> this same page.
>
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to 
> keep them short.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or 
> flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from 
> the membership without notice.
> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital 
> B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be 
> removed from the membership.
> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and 
> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group 
> Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” in the 
> Files section:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
>
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> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE “OWNER” 
> AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE 
> LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, 
> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE 
> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT 
> YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), 
> RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, 
> THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF 
> YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD 
> PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER 
> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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