Digital BW, The Print

I've got some William Turner paper from Hahnemuhle.  From what I've 
researched, only one side is coated but for the life of me, I can't tell yet 
which side is coated.  It's not like EAM, where the coated side is bright 
white and the non-coated side is more of a creamy color.  On the William 
Turner paper, both sides are very bright white, with maybe the most subtle 
difference between them.  About the most significant difference I can see 
between the two sides is that one side has more of a patterned textured look 
about it (like perhaps it came from between two rollers) and the other side 
has more of a non-patterned white washed look to it.  I'm guessing that the 
non-patterned side is the coated side but it's very difficult to tell.

Does anyone have experience with this paper and found a way to identify which 
side is coated and which is not?  

Thanks for any help.


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
interrogtr@a... wrote:
> I've got some William Turner paper from Hahnemuhle.  From 
what I've 
> researched, only one side is coated but for the life of me, I can't 
tell yet 
> which side is coated.  It's not like EAM, where the coated side 
is bright 
> white and the non-coated side is more of a creamy color.  On 
the William 
> Turner paper, both sides are very bright white, with maybe the 
most subtle 
> difference between them.  About the most significant difference 
I can see 
> between the two sides is that one side has more of a 
patterned textured look 
> about it (like perhaps it came from between two rollers) and 
the other side 
> has more of a non-patterned white washed look to it.  I'm 
guessing that the 
> non-patterned side is the coated side but it's very difficult to tell.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with this paper and found a way 
to identify which 
> side is coated and which is not?  
> 
> Thanks for any help.

Its very easy to tell.  Just touch a corner of the paper to your
tongue -- it sticks on the coated side of the paper but 
not on the other.  Sounds weird but is very effective.

Roy

> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The "more" textured side is the printing side...generally it might 
curl a little...the curled side is top...

You can wet your fingers and pinch a corner...the side that is 
stickiest is the coated side...or if you're wild and crazy like some 
here, you just lick the dude and you will know.

cheers,

Tom O'Connell


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, interrogtr@a... 
wrote:
> I've got some William Turner paper from Hahnemuhle.  From what I've 
> researched, only one side is coated but for the life of me, I can't 
tell yet 
> which side is coated.  It's not like EAM, where the coated side is 
bright 
> white and the non-coated side is more of a creamy color.  On the 
William 
> Turner paper, both sides are very bright white, with maybe the most 
subtle 
> difference between them.  About the most significant difference I 
can see 
> between the two sides is that one side has more of a patterned 
textured look 
> about it (like perhaps it came from between two rollers) and the 
other side 
> has more of a non-patterned white washed look to it.  I'm guessing 
that the 
> non-patterned side is the coated side but it's very difficult to 
tell.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with this paper and found a way to 
identify which 

> side is coated and which is not?  
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>Does anyone have experience with this paper and found a way to 
>identify which side is coated and which is not?  

I use a pencil to make a small mark in a corner.  The non-coated side
readily takes the mark, the coated side feels soft and resists taking 
the mark.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Gently press a small corner of the paper between lightly dampened lips - the
coated side will stick/ the non-coated side won't.

rm

>> Does anyone have experience with this paper and found a way to
>> identify which side is coated and which is not?
>

Two possible solutions-
1) See if there is a curl on the material- the coated side curls up.
2) Lick both sides- the side that stays wet longer is the coated side.

Capp

  -----Original Message-----
  From: interrogtr@... [mailto:interrogtr@...]
  Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 12:07 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle paper - printing side


  I've got some William Turner paper from Hahnemuhle.  From what I've
  researched, only one side is coated but for the life of me, I can't tell
yet
  which side is coated.  It's not like EAM, where the coated side is bright
  white and the non-coated side is more of a creamy color.  On the William
  Turner paper, both sides are very bright white, with maybe the most subtle
  difference between them.  About the most significant difference I can see
  between the two sides is that one side has more of a patterned textured
look
  about it (like perhaps it came from between two rollers) and the other
side
  has more of a non-patterned white washed look to it.  I'm guessing that
the
  non-patterned side is the coated side but it's very difficult to tell.

  Does anyone have experience with this paper and found a way to identify
which
  side is coated and which is not?

  Thanks for any help.


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And when you finally figure out which side to use, turn the batch 
over, and mark the back with a pencil so you don't have to keep 
checking!

Steve K--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "tomoc" 
<TomOC@s...> wrote:
> The "more" textured side is the printing side...generally it might 
> curl a little...the curled side is top...
> 
> You can wet your fingers and pinch a corner...the side that is 
> stickiest is the coated side...or if you're wild and crazy like 
some 
> here, you just lick the dude and you will know.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Tom O'Connell
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
interrogtr@a... 
> wrote:
> > I've got some William Turner paper from Hahnemuhle.  From what 
I've 
> > researched, only one side is coated but for the life of me, I 
can't 
> tell yet 
> > which side is coated.  It's not like EAM, where the coated side 
is 
> bright 
> > white and the non-coated side is more of a creamy color.  On the 
> William 
> > Turner paper, both sides are very bright white, with maybe the 
most 
> subtle 
> > difference between them.  About the most significant difference 
I 
> can see 
> > between the two sides is that one side has more of a patterned 
> textured look 
> > about it (like perhaps it came from between two rollers) and the 
> other side 
> > has more of a non-patterned white washed look to it.  I'm 
guessing 

> that the 
> > non-patterned side is the coated side but it's very difficult to 
> tell.
> > 
> > Does anyone have experience with this paper and found a way to 
> identify which 
> > side is coated and which is not?  
> > 
> > Thanks for any help.
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tom wrote:

> The "more" textured side is the printing side...generally it might
> curl a little...the curled side is top...
>
> You can wet your fingers and pinch a corner...the side that is
> stickiest is the coated side...or if you're wild and crazy like some
> here, you just lick the dude and you will know.


Or, just look at the paper using a loupe. The individual paper fibers are
clearly visible on the backside, but not on the coated side.

Tom Keesling
Intelligent Design, Inc.