Digital BW, The Print

Todd,

Unfortunately the hue seems pretty much the same across the tonal range. Not
that this is bad, it just isn't to my personal taste. For other people
consistency of hue is a much sought after quality in B&W prints. I like the
variation in hue you can see in some of the MIS-VM prints. Peter Lindman's
on Eclipse Satine in the A3 exchange being a good example of this. Very cool
blue highlights with blue and magenta midtones and warm shadows.

Paper has a lot to do with this of course. The wedges I have in front of me
are on Photo Rag where the base color is warm and blends into the PiezoTone
ink set. Taking a look at some on EAM there is more variation since the base
is cooler with a touch of green (to my eye). On something really cool like
Legion Photo Matte you would get even more variation.

I have hopes that the upcoming Selenium Piezotones will offer more variation
in hue. Down the road with the cool neutral set added in there will be
opportunities to mix and match.

Martin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Flashner" <tflash@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] PiezoTone color


> Just curious, how linear is the hue of the inks across the scale? IOW, if
> you print a step wedge do you get the sense that the color is the same
> across the scale, just the density differs, or do you get the sense that
> some of the ink positions have a different hue than others?
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> Todd
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on 6/25/02 11:23 PM, Martin Wesley wrote:

> Todd,
> 
> Unfortunately the hue seems pretty much the same across the tonal range. Not
> that this is bad, it just isn't to my personal taste. For other people
> consistency of hue is a much sought after quality in B&W prints. I like the
> variation in hue you can see in some of the MIS-VM prints. Peter Lindman's
> on Eclipse Satine in the A3 exchange being a good example of this. Very cool
> blue highlights with blue and magenta midtones and warm shadows.

Interesting. That's actually one of the things that originally attracted me
to the VM sets, the ability to split tone. I spent a lot of time working out
how to do it, then decided I didn't like it. I think the problem was I
wasn't crazy about the original cool hues. I should try it again with the
Sepia set (or god forbid, mix my own).
 
> Paper has a lot to do with this of course. The wedges I have in front of me
> are on Photo Rag where the base color is warm and blends into the PiezoTone
> ink set. Taking a look at some on EAM there is more variation since the base
> is cooler with a touch of green (to my eye). On something really cool like
> Legion Photo Matte you would get even more variation.

Makes sense, thanks.
 
> I have hopes that the upcoming Selenium Piezotones will offer more variation
> in hue. Down the road with the cool neutral set added in there will be
> opportunities to mix and match.

Good point, all these new inksets add a lot of possibilities!

Thanks,

Todd