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Epson Eco-Tank carbon v. Eboni-6

2015-10-05 by roark.paul@...

Epson has a line of printers that has just started to be sold in the U.S. market. (Europe and Asia have had the approach previously.) These "Eco Tank" printers have, in effect, a CIS external bulk storage unit built onto the side of them.

Epson sells bulk ink for these printers. Most of the inks are cheap dyes that no serious printer would want to use.

However, one of the inks is a carbon ink. The ET-4550 uses dyes for the colors but a carbon ink for the K. It's an MK (rubs off glossy), and has a good dmax.

One would think that, being made for a setup that will have the ink sitting there for a long time without agitation, Epson would do its best to be sure it would not settle -- thus my interest.

Would this very competitively priced carbon ink be a good input for a carbon inkset?

So, I bought a bottle and have put it through some tests. First, I note that it is just a bit warmer than Eboni v.1.1. (from STS Inks).

Before doing a centrifuge test, I let the mixed Eco Tank dilution (6% MK, 94% generic base c6b) sit for 10 days. This ought to be enough to allow any reactions take place if they are going to. Looking for settlement at the bottom of the bottle, there was none. The difference from top to bottom of the Eco Tank 6% mix was just slightly more than that for Eboni 6% (94% generic base).

The centrifuge test is more likely, I believe, to see which ink is likely to settle the fastest. (All carbon pigments settle.) I'm happy to report Eboni v.1.1 held its own against the Epson Eco Tank carbon MK. The differences from the top of the test tube to the bottom (where more of a difference indicates more settlement) were, with multiple reads at different points of the draw-down: Eco Tank MK (#774) (6%) = 3.25; Eboni MK (6%) = 1.23.

Eboni v. 1.1 wins.

Paul

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CIS Question

2015-12-25 by Globe Trotteur

After 4 years, my CIS in my 2200 got a bad chip. I just got a new one but got it empty this time. I filled up the tank and use the syringe to pull ink into the cartridges. I did not fill the cartridges completely and that could have been a mistake.

Right now, the printer prints fine but I have 2/3 of the tubes with no ink.

When i print, the ink is pulled slowly toward the cartridges but i am concerned that i will run out of ink in the cartridges before the ink comes back and fill them.

If i raise the tanks, the ink flows into the cartridges but when i put them back down at the printer level, the tubes get emptied again.

Any advice on how to have the tubes with ink going to the cartridges and no huge gap of air in between

Thanks.

Pierre-Olivier

http://www.DepthofFieldPhotography.com

RE: [Digital BW] CIS Question

2015-12-25 by Mike Johnston

I am not an expert but is it possible there is a vent plug you need to
remove?

 

Mike J.

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 8:33 AM
To: Digital Blackandwhite
Subject: [Digital BW] CIS Question

After 4 years, my CIS in my 2200 got a bad chip. I just got a new one but
got it empty this time. I filled up the tank and use the syringe to pull ink
into the cartridges. I did not fill the cartridges completely and that could
have been a mistake.

Right now, the printer prints fine but I have 2/3 of the tubes with no ink.

When i print, the ink is pulled slowly toward the cartridges but i am
concerned that i will run out of ink in the cartridges before the ink comes
back and fill them.

If i raise the tanks, the ink flows into the cartridges but when i put them
back down at the printer level, the tubes get emptied again.

Any advice on how to have the tubes with ink going to the cartridges and no
huge gap of air in between

Thanks.

Pierre-Olivier

http://www.DepthofFieldPhotography.com

Re: [Digital BW] CIS Question

2015-12-27 by Un Globe Trotteur

Got it to work.
I watched a youtube video. I had to pull the cartridges back out of the printer and use the syringe to pull back the ink into the tubes. Everything is good now.
Thanks

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On 12/25/2015 1:44 PM, 'Mike Johnston' mike.johnston@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

I am not an expert but is it possible there is a vent plug you need to remove?

Mike J.

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 8:33 AM
To: Digital Blackandwhite
Subject: [Digital BW] CIS Question

After 4 years, my CIS in my 2200 got a bad chip. I just got a new one but got it empty this time. I filled up the tank and use the syringe to pull ink into the cartridges. I did not fill the cartridges completely and that could have been a mistake.

Right now, the printer prints fine but I have 2/3 of the tubes with no ink.

When i print, the ink is pulled slowly toward the cartridges but i am concerned that i will run out of ink in the cartridges before the ink comes back and fill them.

If i raise the tanks, the ink flows into the cartridges but when i put them back down at the printer level, the tubes get emptied again.

Any advice on how to have the tubes with ink going to the cartridges and no huge gap of air in between

Thanks.

Pierre-Olivier

http://www.DepthofFieldPhotography.com

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Epson Eco-Tank carbon v. Eboni-6

Epson Eco-Tank carbon v. Eboni-6

CIS Question

RE: [Digital BW] CIS Question

Re: [Digital BW] CIS Question

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