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Photoshop CC, ICC Folder Location

2014-03-22 by <homershannon@...>

I was working on a black and white print and wanted to use a custom .icc file I made quite a while ago, before I adopted Adobe CC and began using CS6. When I went to the printer set up screen I could not find the .icc I wanted to use. I keep my .iccs in the folder C>windows>system32>spool>drivers>color. I checked this folder and did not see the .icc I was looking for. I had a copy squirreled away in another folder and moved a copy to the .icc folder. I closed and reopened CS6.

The .icc still will not come up in the CS6 printer .icc selection box. Thinking that perhaps CS6 uses a different folder, I did computer-wide search on a couple of obscure .iccs, from the print screen drop down, that I know I did not create, to see what folder they were in. The computer search could not find them, which was odd. I can't find any indication in the Photoshop preferences as to where the .iccs should go and a search of Adobe did not come up with a useful answer.

I had a similar problem a year ago when I discovered that Lightroom will not detect non-RGB iccs. I'm 99% certain that the .icc I am looking for is not an RGB .icc as it was made before I had Lr and at that time I did not use the RGB .icc create tool in QTR. So, I have two questions:

1. What is the correct folder to put .icc files into for use with CC-CS6?

2. Is CC-CS6 able to use non-RGB .iccs?

Re: Photoshop CC, ICC Folder Location

2014-03-22 by <roy@...>

1) I think you have the correct folder.

2) CS6 and CC both leave out ICCs in the print dialog that they deem not appropriate for
how you are printing. So if you are printing to an RGB driver (all the Epson drivers) you
will not see any grayscale ICCs. You will see the profiles in Convert to Profile though so
it's not that they are not found.

QTR grayscale ICCs can easily be re-made as RGB ones and they will show up.
BUT -- what good are they? QTR does not work as a driver and you can't access
Epson's ABW when using a profile.

Roy


---In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, <homershannon@...> wrote :

I was working on a black and white print and wanted to use a custom .icc file I made quite a while ago, before I adopted Adobe CC and began using CS6. When I went to the printer set up screen I could not find the .icc I wanted to use. I keep my .iccs in the folder C>windows>system32>spool>drivers>color. I checked this folder and did not see the .icc I was looking for. I had a copy squirreled away in another folder and moved a copy to the .icc folder. I closed and reopened CS6.

The .icc still will not come up in the CS6 printer .icc selection box. Thinking that perhaps CS6 uses a different folder, I did computer-wide search on a couple of obscure .iccs, from the print screen drop down, that I know I did not create, to see what folder they were in. The computer search could not find them, which was odd. I can't find any indication in the Photoshop preferences as to where the .iccs should go and a search of Adobe did not come up with a useful answer.

I had a similar problem a year ago when I discovered that Lightroom will not detect non-RGB iccs. I'm 99% certain that the .icc I am looking for is not an RGB .icc as it was made before I had Lr and at that time I did not use the RGB .icc create tool in QTR. So, I have two questions:

1. What is the correct folder to put .icc files into for use with CC-CS6?

2. Is CC-CS6 able to use non-RGB .iccs?

Re: Photoshop CC, ICC Folder Location

2014-03-24 by <homershannon@...>

I'm still perplexed on this. I created a new ICC using the RGB-ICC create tool and that new ICC shows up fine. Unfortunately, the ICC is not good and a resulting ramp is awful. I think my error is that my base ramp was made with gamma 2.2 printer settings not "no color management". This also seems to be a new change in CC CS6 - "no color management" is no longer an option. What settings should be used in its place?

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Photoshop CC, ICC Folder Location

2014-03-24 by Paul Roark

In CS5 I use an AdobeRGB(1998) file and set the PS profile to AdobeRGB(1998). I think that works. (I have not done this for a while, however.)

Paul
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On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, <homershannon@...> wrote:

I'm still perplexed on this. I created a new ICC using the RGB-ICC create tool and that new ICC shows up fine. Unfortunately, the ICC is not good and a resulting ramp is awful. I think my error is that my base ramp was made with gamma 2.2 printer settings not "no color management". This also seems to be a new change in CC CS6 - "no color management" is no longer an option. What settings should be used in its place?


RE: [Digital BW] Re: Photoshop CC, ICC Folder Location

2014-03-24 by EJ Neilsen

Try turning off  color management by using the printer driver in combination with CC. in the Print dialog in PS use Printer manages color, and in the printer dialog, Color management have it turned off. Then you can print without any profile. 

 

Eric Neilsen

214-827-8301

 

www.ericneilsenphotography.com

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Roark
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In CS5 I use an AdobeRGB(1998) file and set the PS profile to AdobeRGB(1998).  I think that works.  (I have not done this for a while, however.)

 

Paul

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On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, <homershannon@...> wrote:

  

I'm still perplexed on this. I created a new ICC using the RGB-ICC create tool and that new ICC shows up fine. Unfortunately, the ICC is not good and a resulting ramp is awful. I think my error is that my base ramp was made with gamma 2.2 printer settings not "no color management". This also seems to be a new change in CC CS6 - "no color management" is no longer an option. What settings should be used in its place?

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Photoshop CC, ICC Folder Location

2014-03-24 by Mark Nelson

That should work with photoshop CS5 Paul, with CS6 you cannot set the profile to Adobe 1998 for some crazy reason so you have to resort to the Adobe Color Printing Utility. 

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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Roark
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> I'm still perplexed on this. I created a new ICC using the RGB-ICC create tool and that new ICC shows up fine. Unfortunately, the ICC is not good and a resulting ramp is awful. I think my error is that my base ramp was made with gamma 2.2 printer settings not "no color management". This also seems to be a new change in CC CS6 - "no color management" is no longer an option. What settings should be used in its place?
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Re: Photoshop CC, ICC Folder Location

2014-03-25 by <homershannon@...>

I'm still trying to get CS6 to recognize my custom .iccs for two papers. The .icc files are in the correct folder and I've confirmed that other applications can see the files in the printer setup boxes. In fact, if you don't click on the "Off (no color adjustment) box and click on the "Show all profiles" box in the CS6 printer preferences box you can select the missing profiles there. But, you cannot select them (they are not listed) in the Photoshop print settings menu.

My question is - is it possible to work around this issue by leaving Photoshop in 'printer controls' settings and selecting the .icc in the printer setup menu? There are two places that you can set this: Input Profile and Printer Profile. How should these be set if I want the printer to print using the icc?

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