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cyan & magenta for Epson

2013-11-11 by Myron Gochnauer

I am using an Epson 3880 for colour and B&W.  It takes 80ml cartridges which turn out to be fairly expensive per ml.  I have lowered  the cost by purchasing cartridges for the 7880 and transferring the ink into 3880 reloadables, but if I go to all that trouble, I might as well consider third party inks.

For B&W I am using a tweaked version of Epson's "Advanced Black and White".

I have been happy with MIS MK, PK, LK and LLK over a number of years, so I bulk load these.

I seem to recall that MIS colour inks are meaningfully less archival than Epson's but I cannot find verification for this online.  Certainly my experience has been that Epson's inks cause far fewer *clogs* than the MIS equivalents. . .

Is there any hard data indicating that a third party's colour inks are at least as long-lasting as Epson’s?

Any recommendations? 

Myron

Re: [Digital BW] cyan & magenta for Epson

2013-11-11 by Mark Savoia

Try Inkjetmall's www.inkjetmall.com

On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Myron Gochnauer wrote:

I am using an Epson 3880 for colour and B&W. It takes 80ml cartridges which turn out to be fairly expensive per ml. I have lowered the cost by purchasing cartridges for the 7880 and transferring the ink into 3880 reloadables, but if I go to all that trouble, I might as well consider third party inks.

For B&W I am using a tweaked version of Epson's "Advanced Black and White".

I have been happy with MIS MK, PK, LK and LLK over a number of years, so I bulk load these.

I seem to recall that MIS colour inks are meaningfully less archival than Epson's but I cannot find verification for this online. Certainly my experience has been that Epson's inks cause far fewer *clogs* than the MIS equivalents. . .

Is there any hard data indicating that a third party's colour inks are at least as long-lasting as Epson’s?

Any recommendations?

Myron

RE: [Digital BW] cyan & magenta for Epson

2013-11-11 by Gary

Aardenburg  has lots of good information from testing many different inks on
many different papers. 

http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/index.html

Gary Wagner
www.garywagner.com
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Subject: [Digital BW] cyan & magenta for Epson

I am using an Epson 3880 for colour and B&W.  It takes 80ml cartridges which
turn out to be fairly expensive per ml.  I have lowered  the cost by
purchasing cartridges for the 7880 and transferring the ink into 3880
reloadables, but if I go to all that trouble, I might as well consider third
party inks.

For B&W I am using a tweaked version of Epson's "Advanced Black and White".

I have been happy with MIS MK, PK, LK and LLK over a number of years, so I
bulk load these.

I seem to recall that MIS colour inks are meaningfully less archival than
Epson's but I cannot find verification for this online.  Certainly my
experience has been that Epson's inks cause far fewer *clogs* than the MIS
equivalents. . .

Is there any hard data indicating that a third party's colour inks are at
least as long-lasting as Epson's?

Any recommendations? 

Myron




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Re: [Digital BW] cyan & magenta for Epson

2013-11-11 by Paul Roark

Myron,

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I have been happy with MIS MK, PK, LK and LLK over a number of years, so I bulk load these.

I think it's hard to beat the MIS carbons for longevity and economy.



Is there any hard data indicating that a third party's colour inks are at least as long-lasting as Epson’s?

http://aardenburg-imaging.com/ is by far your best source of information. If you go to the fade test page, you can click on the "Conservation Display Rating" column to put the data in order -- higher is better.

(Those that are in the "Pass" category may be even better. The Conservation display rating is only assigned after the ink hits an end point. Those in the "pass" category that have a high number of hours in the "status" column have to be looked at individually. That is, you have to download the PDF to see how they are doing. But there are no third party color inks in this category.)

You need to log in to the Aardenburg-Imaging system before you can access much of the data, and a membership is needed. I think those are now free, but I urge you to help support this vital database and the work Mark has done.

At any rate, once you log in and put the tests in order of Mark's bottom line rating, you can scan down the list and see how they stack up.

Paul





RE: cyan & magenta for Epson

2013-11-11 by <paulmwhiting@...>

My R1800/3MK test reached 160 MegaluxHours yesterday, but the results aren't posted yet. I'm pretty confident it will continue to do well.


Amen to Paul's suggestion to support Mark's work on his website, he's providing a valuable service to all of us.


Paul W.



---In digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com, <roark.paul@...> wrote:

Myron,

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I have been happy with MIS MK, PK, LK and LLK over a number of years, so I bulk load these.

I think it's hard to beat the MIS carbons for longevity and economy.



Is there any hard data indicating that a third party's colour inks are at least as long-lasting as Epson’s?

http://aardenburg-imaging.com/ is by far your best source of information. If you go to the fade test page, you can click on the "Conservation Display Rating" column to put the data in order -- higher is better.

(Those that are in the "Pass" category may be even better. The Conservation display rating is only assigned after the ink hits an end point. Those in the "pass" category that have a high number of hours in the "status" column have to be looked at individually. That is, you have to download the PDF to see how they are doing. But there are no third party color inks in this category.)

You need to log in to the Aardenburg-Imaging system before you can access much of the data, and a membership is needed. I think those are now free, but I urge you to help support this vital database and the work Mark has done.

At any rate, once you log in and put the tests in order of Mark's bottom line rating, you can scan down the list and see how they stack up.

Paul





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