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Diluting Claria Inks

Diluting Claria Inks

2013-01-22 by remononaz1

All issues with the 1400 / 1430 cartridges aside, Paul, I'm very interested in your comment about diluting light magenta ink:

"You might want to just pull the colors out of the 1430 Claria carts and put it in the MIS carts. If you buy the Claria M (no LM), after you dilute it with the generic base (30% Claria M to 70% base), the cost of the LM becomes quite reasonable."

I find that the light magenta and light cyan inks are the ones that get used up fastest followed by black and yellow. Full strength magenta and cyan last forever. 

What would the dilution for light cyan be? Which of your base solutions should be used in this?

Also, I find that the blues of skies and water with MIS color inks tend to be a bit green. Even if I only use the Epson ink for the light cyan, it would improve the look of using third-party MIS inks. (In the 1400, which does not seem to care what mix of cartridges I put in it!!!)

Re: [Digital BW] Diluting Claria Inks

2013-01-22 by Paul Roark

For light color inks I use the following dilution percentages:  30% dark
ink, 70% clear base.

(You'll note that in the "2K2LK" 1400 setup I used a dilution of 1:2
(33.3%) for the LK.  This was just to make it easier to do without scales.
 I don't know what such a ratio for the light color inks would do with the
profiles.)

For the Claria dyes, use the generic dye base.  See, for example, footnote
4 on page 1 of
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-Noritsu-2K2LK.pdf .

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:59 AM, remononaz1 <homershannon@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> All issues with the 1400 / 1430 cartridges aside, Paul, I'm very
> interested in your comment about diluting light magenta ink:
>
> "You might want to just pull the colors out of the 1430 Claria carts and
> put it in the MIS carts. If you buy the Claria M (no LM), after you dilute
> it with the generic base (30% Claria M to 70% base), the cost of the LM
> becomes quite reasonable."
>
> I find that the light magenta and light cyan inks are the ones that get
> used up fastest followed by black and yellow. Full strength magenta and
> cyan last forever.
>
> What would the dilution for light cyan be? Which of your base solutions
> should be used in this?
>
> Also, I find that the blues of skies and water with MIS color inks tend to
> be a bit green. Even if I only use the Epson ink for the light cyan, it
> would improve the look of using third-party MIS inks. (In the 1400, which
> does not seem to care what mix of cartridges I put in it!!!)
>
>  
>


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Re: [Digital BW] Diluting Claria Inks

2013-01-22 by remononaz1

OK! I have most of a pint of that solution on hand. What is the best way to extract the full strength dye from the Epson cartridges for diluting?

If this works out it would reduce the cost of using genuine Claria inks by about by about 50%. Thanks for the tip. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark  wrote:
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>
> For light color inks I use the following dilution percentages:  30% dark
> ink, 70% clear base.
> 
> (You'll note that in the "2K2LK" 1400 setup I used a dilution of 1:2
> (33.3%) for the LK.  This was just to make it easier to do without scales.
>  I don't know what such a ratio for the light color inks would do with the
> profiles.)
> 
> For the Claria dyes, use the generic dye base.  See, for example, footnote
> 4 on page 1 of
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-Noritsu-2K2LK.pdf .
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:59 AM, remononaz1  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > All issues with the 1400 / 1430 cartridges aside, Paul, I'm very
> > interested in your comment about diluting light magenta ink:
> >
> > "You might want to just pull the colors out of the 1430 Claria carts and
> > put it in the MIS carts. If you buy the Claria M (no LM), after you dilute
> > it with the generic base (30% Claria M to 70% base), the cost of the LM
> > becomes quite reasonable."
> >
> > I find that the light magenta and light cyan inks are the ones that get
> > used up fastest followed by black and yellow. Full strength magenta and
> > cyan last forever.
> >
> > What would the dilution for light cyan be? Which of your base solutions
> > should be used in this?
> >
> > Also, I find that the blues of skies and water with MIS color inks tend to
> > be a bit green. Even if I only use the Epson ink for the light cyan, it
> > would improve the look of using third-party MIS inks. (In the 1400, which
> > does not seem to care what mix of cartridges I put in it!!!)
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [Digital BW] Diluting Claria Inks

2013-01-22 by Paul Roark

I believe the bottom fill accessory from MIS and a syringe work.  The cart
will need to have had it's air inlet opened.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:31 AM, remononaz1 <homershannon@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> OK! I have most of a pint of that solution on hand. What is the best way
> to extract the full strength dye from the Epson cartridges for diluting?
>
> If this works out it would reduce the cost of using genuine Claria inks by
> about by about 50%. Thanks for the tip.
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark wrote:
> >
> > For light color inks I use the following dilution percentages: 30% dark
> > ink, 70% clear base.
> >
> > (You'll note that in the "2K2LK" 1400 setup I used a dilution of 1:2
> > (33.3%) for the LK. This was just to make it easier to do without scales.
> > I don't know what such a ratio for the light color inks would do with the
> > profiles.)
> >
> > For the Claria dyes, use the generic dye base. See, for example, footnote
> > 4 on page 1 of
> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-Noritsu-2K2LK.pdf .
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:59 AM, remononaz1 wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > All issues with the 1400 / 1430 cartridges aside, Paul, I'm very
> > > interested in your comment about diluting light magenta ink:
> > >
> > > "You might want to just pull the colors out of the 1430 Claria carts
> and
> > > put it in the MIS carts. If you buy the Claria M (no LM), after you
> dilute
> > > it with the generic base (30% Claria M to 70% base), the cost of the LM
> > > becomes quite reasonable."
> > >
> > > I find that the light magenta and light cyan inks are the ones that get
> > > used up fastest followed by black and yellow. Full strength magenta and
> > > cyan last forever.
> > >
> > > What would the dilution for light cyan be? Which of your base solutions
> > > should be used in this?
> > >
> > > Also, I find that the blues of skies and water with MIS color inks
> tend to
> > > be a bit green. Even if I only use the Epson ink for the light cyan, it
> > > would improve the look of using third-party MIS inks. (In the 1400,
> which
> > > does not seem to care what mix of cartridges I put in it!!!)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


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