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2012-08-30 by dmet2006
Hello to all recipients.. I'm looking for a way to scan 6X6 b&w negatives for printing via a Epson R2400. Can you please suggest the "proper" device - scanner? Can a flatbed scanner with this additional option do the job with acceptable result? best regards Dimitris
2012-08-30 by Ernst Dinkla
On 08/30/2012 10:37 AM, dmet2006 wrote: > Hello to all recipients.. > I'm looking for a way to scan 6X6 b&w negatives for printing via a Epson > R2400. > Can you please suggest the "proper" device - scanner? > Can a flatbed scanner with this additional option do the job with > acceptable result? > > best regards > Dimitris Resolution wise a good flatbed like the Epson V700 should deliver enough data for an A3+ sheet size. Say a true optical resolution of 2000 PPI delivered by the scanner is 4400 PPI on the 56x56 mm fil frame. 330x480 mm is the largest sheet size possible if I recall it correctly. For printer driver input there is 746 PPI available in best case, 513 PPI available in worst case. Ample enough, leaves some space for more cropping too. Dynamic range could be an issue depending on the density range of the B&W negative. Multi exposure in third party drivers helps then, Vuescan, Silverfast. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla Grafische Techniek Quad, pi\ufffdzografie, gicl\ufffde www.pigment-print.com
2012-08-30 by Tony Sleep
On 30/08/2012 Ernst Dinkla wrote: > > Resolution wise a good flatbed very goodlike the Epson V700 should deliver > enough > data for an A3+ sheet size. I can confirm it does. Rollei 6000 negs scanned on a V700@optical res 6900 x 6900 px and the optics are very good indeed. Results are far better than I expected, and some of you may remember I used to run filmscanner tests and reviews. 6x6 ISO100 negs are still capable of outclassing my 5d2 by a fair margin c/o the V700. I used to sneer at flatbeds but not any more. I can't print at larger than A3+ but I'm sure they'd print at >24" without any sense of inadequacy. You could pay 8x as much for an Imacon for a gain of about 5% in overall IQ. The Epson really is ridiculously good for the price. I wouldn't use it for 35mm however, where 2000ppi is not enough. -- Regards Tony Sleep
2012-08-31 by Robert Rapp
I would suggest spending a little more and buy the Epson V750 for the supplies software. Hold off on upgrading to SilverFast V8 until after you have installed and updated the V6. V8 is not ready for prime time yet! Sent from my Nexus 7 On Aug 30, 2012 4:50 PM, "Tony Sleep" <TonySleep@...> wrote: > ** > > > On 30/08/2012 Ernst Dinkla wrote: > > > > Resolution wise a good flatbed very goodlike the Epson V700 should > deliver > > enough > > data for an A3+ sheet size. > > I can confirm it does. Rollei 6000 negs scanned on a V700@optical res > 6900 > x 6900 px and the optics are very good indeed. Results are far better than > I expected, and some of you may remember I used to run filmscanner tests > and reviews. 6x6 ISO100 negs are still capable of outclassing my 5d2 by a > fair margin c/o the V700. I used to sneer at flatbeds but not any more. > > I can't print at larger than A3+ but I'm sure they'd print at >24" without > any sense of inadequacy. You could pay 8x as much for an Imacon for a gain > of about 5% in overall IQ. The Epson really is ridiculously good for the > price. I wouldn't use it for 35mm however, where 2000ppi is not enough. > > -- > Regards > > Tony Sleep > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-08-31 by Ernst Dinkla
On 08/31/2012 05:11 AM, Robert Rapp wrote: > I would suggest spending a little more and buy the Epson V750 for the > supplies software. Hold off on upgrading to SilverFast V8 until after you > have installed and updated the V6. V8 is not ready for prime time yet! > If it is for the wet mount holder you better get Doug Fisher's wet mount holder. That, a Vuescan license and the V700 is what I have. I used to make my own wet mount holders but the Betterscanning ones are in fact perfect. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla Grafische Techniek Quad, pi\ufffdzografie, gicl\ufffde www.pigment-print.com
2012-08-31 by Robert Rapp
I have the Better Scanning holders as well. I found that 3,5mm to be the ideal height. With B&W, the highest resolution I could obtain was 3,200 (single channel). Sent from my Nexus 7 On Aug 31, 2012 12:57 AM, "Ernst Dinkla" <e.dinkla@...> wrote: > ** > > > On 08/31/2012 05:11 AM, Robert Rapp wrote: > > I would suggest spending a little more and buy the Epson V750 for the > > supplies software. Hold off on upgrading to SilverFast V8 until after you > > have installed and updated the V6. V8 is not ready for prime time yet! > > > > If it is for the wet mount holder you better get Doug Fisher's wet mount > holder. That, a Vuescan license and the V700 is what I have. I used to > make my own wet mount holders but the Betterscanning ones are in fact > perfect. > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst > > Dinkla Grafische Techniek > Quad, pi�zografie, gicl�e > www.pigment-print.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-08-31 by Jeff
I also have the V750. There are some 6x6 scans in my gallery at http://jeffgoldner.zenfolio.com/movingwater - should be obvious which ones (they are square!). I used the stock Epson holder for these. I don't recall if I used Silverfast to digitize or the Epson scanning software which works well and properly finds the frames. Most of my 6x6 scans were at 4800 (probably overkill). --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Rapp <bobrapp43@...> wrote:
> > I have the Better Scanning holders as well. I found that 3,5mm to be the > ideal height. With B&W, the highest resolution I could obtain was 3,200 > (single channel). > > Sent from my Nexus 7 > On Aug 31, 2012 12:57 AM, "Ernst Dinkla" <e.dinkla@...> > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > On 08/31/2012 05:11 AM, Robert Rapp wrote: > > > I would suggest spending a little more and buy the Epson V750 for the > > > supplies software. Hold off on upgrading to SilverFast V8 until after you > > > have installed and updated the V6. V8 is not ready for prime time yet! > > > > > > > If it is for the wet mount holder you better get Doug Fisher's wet mount > > holder. That, a Vuescan license and the V700 is what I have. I used to > > make my own wet mount holders but the Betterscanning ones are in fact > > perfect. > > > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst > > > > Dinkla Grafische Techniek > > Quad, piëzografie, giclée > > www.pigment-print.com > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2012-08-31 by Bob Rapp
For me, the advantages of the V750 over the V700 are the software plus the reflective and positive IT-8 targets which, through Silverfast, provide very good color management. In addition, I do own a Kodachrome target for scanning old slides. I purchased the V750 to replace my old Microtech 120tf that has a failed board (no parts available). The V750 provides almost comparable resolution to the 120. For 35mm, I still have a Minolta 5400 which does provide an honest 5,400 dpi and I use it for all my 35mm work. _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:37 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 6X6 scanner choice.. I also have the V750. There are some 6x6 scans in my gallery at http://jeffgoldner.zenfolio.com/movingwater - should be obvious which ones (they are square!). I used the stock Epson holder for these. I don't recall if I used Silverfast to digitize or the Epson scanning software which works well and properly finds the frames. Most of my 6x6 scans were at 4800 (probably overkill). --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , Robert Rapp <bobrapp43@...> wrote: > > I have the Better Scanning holders as well. I found that 3,5mm to be the > ideal height. With B&W, the highest resolution I could obtain was 3,200 > (single channel). > > Sent from my Nexus 7 > On Aug 31, 2012 12:57 AM, "Ernst Dinkla" <e.dinkla@...> > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > On 08/31/2012 05:11 AM, Robert Rapp wrote: > > > I would suggest spending a little more and buy the Epson V750 for the > > > supplies software. Hold off on upgrading to SilverFast V8 until after you > > > have installed and updated the V6. V8 is not ready for prime time yet! > > > > > > > If it is for the wet mount holder you better get Doug Fisher's wet mount > > holder. That, a Vuescan license and the V700 is what I have. I used to > > make my own wet mount holders but the Betterscanning ones are in fact > > perfect. > > > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst > > > > Dinkla Grafische Techniek > > Quad, piëzografie, giclée > > www.pigment-print.com > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]