Digital BW, The Print

Hi,

I'm print with the Eboni 6 inkset through an Epson R2400.

I'm NOT using QTR but am using the native driver.

Up to now, very happy with the results.( Maybe the 1400 was smoother but it would not handle the paper that I wanted to use )

Suddenly, I have a problem with random gobs of ink around the white margin of my prints. This is not every time but it is frequent. It is costing more than enough in wasted prints which would otherwise be perfect.

What should I do ? 

Shoot the printer or shoot myself ?

We are talking life and death here as I have cleaned everything that I can get access to, flushed with MIS Solution filled carts and then replaced with fresh set of refillable carts charged with Eboni 6.

as an act of mercy, HELP !

Fotophoenix

"arthurkrick" <arthur.krick2@...> wrote:
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> ... problem with random gobs of ink around the white margin of my prints. ...


I'm not sure what all might cause that.  My old 7500 would do it if I overfilled a cart.  So, if you're using a CIS and the ink level is too much above the head that might be a factor.

I also suspected dog hair on the head caused it.  Cleaning the underside of the head with bias tape and windex seemed to help.  

Similar to this is the question of why the wiper blade did not take care of the problem.  So, maybe a worn out wiper blade is a factor.

On one of my printers I found that the area to the left of the carriage where the head apparently spits ink had dry ink piled up so high the head was hitting it.  An Epson repair person on another printer recommended I just remove the foam covering on that spot.  When removed there was just a hole there that the head spit into, and the problem was solved.

Good luck with the ink blobs.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

This happens occasionally withy 1400 when one orpre of the refillable ares are at or near empty.

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On Sep 5, 2010, at 3:43 AM, "arthurkrick" <arthur.krick2@...> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm print with the Eboni 6 inkset through an Epson R2400.
> 
> I'm NOT using QTR but am using the native driver.
> 
> Up to now, very happy with the results.( Maybe the 1400 was smoother but it would not handle the paper that I wanted to use )
> 
> Suddenly, I have a problem with random gobs of ink around the white margin of my prints. This is not every time but it is frequent. It is costing more than enough in wasted prints which would otherwise be perfect.
> 
> What should I do ? 
> 
> Shoot the printer or shoot myself ?
> 
> We are talking life and death here as I have cleaned everything that I can get access to, flushed with MIS Solution filled carts and then replaced with fresh set of refillable carts charged with Eboni 6.
> 
> as an act of mercy, HELP !
> 
> Fotophoenix
> 
> 


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I'm having a very similar problem with my 2400, using the EB-6 inks and refillable carts.  I've been suspecting leaky cartridges, but then again maybe it's the "wiper blade" you refer to.  ...What exactly is the wiper blade and how would I clean or replace it?

Thanks,
-len

-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul 
Sent: Sep 5, 2010 11:29 AM 
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mucky Margins 

  
"arthurkrick" <arthur.krick2@...> wrote:
>
> ... problem with random gobs of ink around the white margin of my prints. ...

I'm not sure what all might cause that. My old 7500 would do it if I overfilled a cart. So, if you're using a CIS and the ink level is too much above the head that might be a factor.

I also suspected dog hair on the head caused it. Cleaning the underside of the head with bias tape and windex seemed to help. 

Similar to this is the question of why the wiper blade did not take care of the problem. So, maybe a worn out wiper blade is a factor.

On one of my printers I found that the area to the left of the carriage where the head apparently spits ink had dry ink piled up so high the head was hitting it. An Epson repair person on another printer recommended I just remove the foam covering on that spot. When removed there was just a hole there that the head spit into, and the problem was solved.

Good luck with the ink blobs.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

I from time to time note this problem on my 3800 with OEM inks.  My conclusion is that is has been related to paper curl.   Some papers bow upward (toward the print head) and these get ink on them.    For me just a bit of reverse curl before putting it in the paper solves the problem.  Not sure if its the same issue others are referring to.

 

Paul

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:29 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mucky Margins

 

  

I'm having a very similar problem with my 2400, using the EB-6 inks and refillable carts. I've been suspecting leaky cartridges, but then again maybe it's the "wiper blade" you refer to. ...What exactly is the wiper blade and how would I clean or replace it?

Thanks,
-len

-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul 
Sent: Sep 5, 2010 11:29 AM 
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>  
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mucky Margins 

"arthurkrick" <arthur.krick2@...> wrote:
>
> ... problem with random gobs of ink around the white margin of my prints. ...

I'm not sure what all might cause that. My old 7500 would do it if I overfilled a cart. So, if you're using a CIS and the ink level is too much above the head that might be a factor.

I also suspected dog hair on the head caused it. Cleaning the underside of the head with bias tape and windex seemed to help. 

Similar to this is the question of why the wiper blade did not take care of the problem. So, maybe a worn out wiper blade is a factor.

On one of my printers I found that the area to the left of the carriage where the head apparently spits ink had dry ink piled up so high the head was hitting it. An Epson repair person on another printer recommended I just remove the foam covering on that spot. When removed there was just a hole there that the head spit into, and the problem was solved.

Good luck with the ink blobs.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 




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Hi,
every printer I've had has occasionally dropped ink - usually in the margins, but sometimes on the print itself.

You said you've cleaned everything you can get access to, so may have already done these things, but here's what I've found, anyway:

It seems that if ink builds up on the head, it starts to drip off. I find a cleaning cycle usually fixes it for a time ... but running the head to and fro over a clean lint-free cloth is what I've had to resort to at times. My vendor advised starting with a damp cloth and then using progressively drier cloths until you finish with a dry one. I've not done this with my 3800, but with my 2100 it seemed to help, though I then had to run cleaning cycles to get the ink going again properly. With that printer you had to turn it off at the wall while it was switched on, so that the head could then be moved.

These things always seem to happen to me when:
1. I'm on a deadline 
2. It's a big print on my most expensive paper

The other printer maintenance technique that you were considering, namely shooting yourself, does not sound like a method that is likely to work, to me. I'm pretty sure your print head would still drop ink, even after rigorous and repeated practice of this technique.

Good luck,
Richard

At 10:43 p.m. Sunday 5/09/2010, you wrote:
>Suddenly, I have a problem with random gobs of ink around the white margin of my prints. This is not every time but it is frequent. It is costing more than enough in wasted prints which would otherwise be perfect.


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "arthurkrick" <arthur.krick2@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Suddenly, I have a problem with random gobs of ink around the white margin of my prints. This is not every time but it is frequent. 
> 
> What should I do ? 
> 
> Fotophoenix

Does this coincide with you having changed or refilled a refillable cartridge?

If so it could be that you have not properly primed one or more cartridges. This means that insufficient vacuum is created to prevent the ink from draining out and down through the head. 

With the MIS ones I have found the best way is to buy a set of their bottom fill adaptors and follow their instructions to the letter.

From your description of the problem though, your problem does not sound severe enough to be incorrect priming. But you can tell if it is as all the ink in the offending cartridge will drain out over the course of a day or two.

Good Luck!

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request for help with my "messy R2400", not least the chap who argued against the rather terminal solution involving a gun !

It was comforting to hear that others have experienced a similar problem and that, when it happens, it generally appears to be a transient problem.

For what it may be worth for the future, I checked my carts and, yes, they were fairly full but not "brimming".

Therefore, I have now run a number ( 20 or so ) of A4 sheets of plain paper printing out the MIS 8 channel purge pattern on "fine".

As I type this , my fingers and my toes are crossed; the gobs of ink on the margins no longer appear !

Maybe it is just good fortune but I will in future keep my carts no more than 75% full.

Once again, thank you all for chipping in with your ideas.

Arthur

Go figure!  The two times it happened to me with my 1400 and MIS refillable carts with eboni ink was when the carts were almost empty.

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On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:46 AM, "arthurkrick" <arthur.krick2@....uk> wrote:

> I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request for help with my "messy R2400", not least the chap who argued against the rather terminal solution involving a gun !
> 
> It was comforting to hear that others have experienced a similar problem and that, when it happens, it generally appears to be a transient problem.
> 
> For what it may be worth for the future, I checked my carts and, yes, they were fairly full but not "brimming".
> 
> Therefore, I have now run a number ( 20 or so ) of A4 sheets of plain paper printing out the MIS 8 channel purge pattern on "fine".
> 
> As I type this , my fingers and my toes are crossed; the gobs of ink on the margins no longer appear !
> 
> Maybe it is just good fortune but I will in future keep my carts no more than 75% full.
> 
> Once again, thank you all for chipping in with your ideas.
> 
> Arthur
> 
> 


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As you so rightly say Richard, " Go Figure ".

There is no way of predicting what mischief those little Epson Demons will get up to next !

Still, it seems to have worked for me THIS time.

Moral ? 

Well, I think it seems to be clear that having your carts too full or too close to empty is, as you would expect, a bad thing.

But how to know what is "too" full or "too" close to empty ?

Well, as you have said........." go figure "

Arthur