Re: [Digital BW] Two Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by jvlist@home.com
... the MIS, and ... need for extra ... Hi Jerry, Long time no write! Hope you are doing fine! So you are saying I ll get Piezography quality with the MIS
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Piezo MIS Comparison
2001-08-18 by Michael J. Kravit
I thought I might take a moment and add my observations to the Piezo- MIS comparison data. Paul and I have finished the MIS Variable Tone warm curve for the
Re: [Digital BW] MIS and this List
2001-08-18 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Tim, Todd, Everyone, If you look at the Description at the top of the group s homepage and read Post #1 that pretty much says it all. We will do whatever we
Re: Inkjet Topics and Nomenclature
2001-08-18 by Tyler Boley
... Well, we also have the the Spectratones, the Lysonic quad inks, the Lysonic Small Gamuts, and if anyone wants to experiment, Ilford came out with an
dissenting view re. abbreviations
2001-08-18 by Richard Wolfson
With all due respect, Martin, I dissent. These abbreviations would drive me batty. I d very much prefer people just type these terms more or less in full, at
MIS's Description of the Group was Re: [Digital BW] MIS and this List
2001-08-18 by Martin Wesley
Todd, Thanks for the alert. This groups was NOT formed around the use of or for the discussion of MIS VM inks! This is a forum to address ALL technologies for
MIS and this List
2001-08-18 by Todd Flashner
... ... Martin, Antonis, As list owners you should know it appears that MIS is trying to appropriate your list, behind the scenes, for their own ends.
Re: [Digital BW] Two Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by Jerry Olson
If you like cold tones, or warm, or anything in between, go with the MIS, and Paul s curves. Piezo quality at 1/5th the piezo price, and no need for extra
Re: [Digital BW] Inkjet Topics and Nomenclature
2001-08-18 by Johnny Deadman
on 8/18/01 4:57 PM, mwesley250@earthlink.net at mwesley250@earthlink.net ... I would also appreciate it VERY much if someone could put a page up somewhere
Inkjet Topics and Nomenclature
2001-08-18 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
One thing I have notice with the inkjet threads is that with the large number of ink sets, software, etc. we are discussing it is critical to include in each
Re: Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by Dan Culbertson
... Good heavens, the old R9 sure went up in price! When it first came out I bought it from Sundance for under $200 (around $150 I think). If it has
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Two MIS Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by Michael J. Kravit
Amazing, I found that with the 7000, the Cone Piezography inks build up a thick nasty paste on the head cleaning pads and capping station. I continually have
Re: Two MIS Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by John Vitollo
Michael J. Kravit mentioned ... While doing the Windex trick on the head/capping station of my 1160 - I noticed the Windex still puddled up after a number of
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Two MIS Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by Tim Spragens
That is distressing, not just for you, but for anyone wanting to use a CIS with a chipped cart printer. Do you know why it happened, or how to avoid it? Tim
Re: Two MIS Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by John Vitollo
... I wish I could. But I have not used Piezography in a number of months as the Cone inks clogged up my printer and CIS. Had to return my printer to Epson for
Re: [Digital BW] Two Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by Steadman Uhlich
Why don t you use one printer for PiezoBW inks and the other for the Variable inks. That way you could see a difference. ... From: John Vitollo To:
Re: Two MIS Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
... Inks to take ... Variable Mix Inks? ... Piezography ... John. Sorry, I´m not able to answer this because I killed my 1270 while installing the CIS
Two Ink Sets?
2001-08-18 by John Vitollo
Would it be overkill to have an 1160 with MIS Full Spectrum Inks to take advantage of the Piezography driver and another with MIS Variable Mix Inks? Or is the
Re: [Digital BW] MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by Paul Roark
... The Piezo black and FS black (which is the same as the variable-tone, VM black) appear to be virtually identical to the Piezo black. I can t say they are
Re: [Digital BW] Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by Michael J. Kravit
I printed a 21 Step Tablet with the Piezo BW24Pro (The Piezo RIP for the 7000) using the MIS variable tone inks. The result was smooth continuous tone steps
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
Dave, your input is very interesting. I myself was absolutely helpless with the wrong Woolf curve and tried to build my own curve - but results were
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by dave@tevisphoto.com
-snip Well.. the first go round on the new John Woolf workflow (the new one is posted 8-17-01, you could tell immediattly that the original workflow posted on
RE: [Digital BW] Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by Nij
Dave, The software is only sold with inks, to the very best of my knowledge. I believe that ConeTech s position on this is that the software is designed for
Re: Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by Tyler Boley
... There s a loaded question! The answers will be subjective. The workflow with it is very straightforward, you stay in grayscale without dealing with
Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-18 by sdmey4@aol.com
In a message dated 08/17/2001 2:50:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, paul.roark@verizon.net writes:
Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by dave@tevisphoto.com
Is there any benefit to using the Piezo software? I am using MIS FS inks and wondered if the Piezo is a rip system. If so is it any different than using
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by dave@tevisphoto.com
I m still playing with the workflows but so far I can say that the MIS FS inks are very nuetral on Glacier matte (same as lysonic matte) no warm tones at all,
Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
2001-08-17 by antonisphoto@yahoo.com
Details of the planned September release of this paper in Germany are posted in our Files section, under the Paper Data folder. Provided courtesy of Bernd
[Digital BW] Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
... are based ... black -- which is ... that I think are ... the ink dots ... very well. ... sees a ... difference. ... (not the ... Paul, could you enlighten
[Digital BW] Re: Legion Photo Matte, the "acid " Test
2001-08-17 by als2169@yahoo.com
You did see the Legion Photo Matte 8.5X11 listed at 25 sheets on einks.net. It was our error, it comes in 50 sheet packages. The 11X17 and 13X19 come in 25
Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by Michael J. Kravit
Bernd, Paul Roark has done significant amounts of testing with Piezo and MIS inks. The rate of fade and the rate of color change in the two inksets is slightly
[Digital BW] Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Paul, If you have any image files to illustrate a post, just send them to me or Antonis with an explaination of how you would like them described or titled. We
[Digital BW] Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by Paul Roark
... Correct. I have not fade tested the full Full Spectrum. They are based on the same black as the VM black, which is equal to Piezo black -- which is
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
... Bernd, I did get your message of today a little while ago and hopefully you got my response. (I don t normally have access to my e-mail during the day and
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
Thanks Mike, I had a discussion with Paul about his comparisons. If I got him right, he used the classic MIS Quad inkset for comparison. But I may be wrong.
FotoFusion
2001-08-17 by Michael J. Kravit
Since this is a Digital Printing List, I thought that I would announce the upcoming FotoFusion 2002 Confernce. This is a great event now in it s 7th year.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by Tim Atherton
So has anyone compared the new MIS double Density black with the older standard MIS black? Tim A ... From: ruhrfoto@yahoo.de To:
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
????gitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., mwesley250@e... ... driver, ... workflow ... with the ... Martin: MIS and Woolf-workflow: visible dots under the
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
Martin, did you get my offline-message some hours ago about using the Piezo driver and MIS FS inks (and BTW did you get my offline infos about Hahnemühle
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Another thought and question on this subject. If the MIS Full Spectrum inks can be used with the ConeTech driver, has anyone tried the ConeTech Piezo inks with
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
... using John ... been ... the ... Spectrum inks ... FS inks ... way to
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Dave, How much improvement are you seeing in the blacks compared to the ConeTech inks? Any green tint problems? Martin ... (snip)
Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by dave@tevisphoto.com
I ve been using them for a short time now. The biggest differences are... MIS changed the arrangment of the inks to match the piezo system (though they don t
[Digital BW] 4 vs. 6 inks for MIS Variable Tone Inks?
2001-08-17 by Paul Roark
... I think the 1280 makes slightly better prints than the 1160 with the Variable Tone inks. However, I know what to look for in test strips. In actual
[Digital BW] MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by Paul Roark
Martin, ... MIS doesn t like the term, but I call the Full Spectrum inkset the, Cone Clone. It is definitely a cheaper way to use the Piezo software. Like
MIS Inks with Piezo Software
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
I noticed on the MIS site under News the mention that the Full Spectrum quad inks can be use with either the Epson driver using John Woolf s workflow or with
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Eclipse Satine Comments Comparison to XGS
2001-08-17 by Steadman Uhlich
Mike, The Eclipse Satine is entirely different from the Xtreme Gamut Satine. I have both and have printed with both. The XGS has a more velvet finish (more
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Eclipse Velvet and Satine Piezo Curve
2001-08-17 by sdmey4@aol.com
Mike, The Bright cube Eclipse Velvet is like a photo matte paper whereas The Extreme Gamut Satine is more like an art paper Like Sumerset or Osprey. Eclipse is
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Eclipse Velvet and Satine Piezo Curve
2001-08-17 by Todd Flashner
... No. I m using Paul s earlier VT incarnation, which is a blend of Piezo BW inks with Generations as the toner. Thus, it would follow that my results are
4 vs. 6 inks for MIS Variable Tone Inks?
2001-08-17 by John Vitollo
Hi All. What a great list - packed full of info!!! Are there pros and cons of 4 vs. 6 inks for MIS Variable Tone Inks? I have both 1160 and 1200 printers and