Digital BW, The Print

I'd be surprised that there's visible differences in the various RIPs with K6
inks.   With so many shades of gray, if you have good profiles any of the RIPs
ought to be great.

I wonder if there's some mixup of quad piezotones vs. hex K6's inks.
I've used the K6s on my 7500 (the source of the K6 profiles, btw) and there
aren't any visible dots to the naked eye and barely anything with a strong loupe.

Roy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" 
<e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Mark, I too tried QTR with my 7000 and Sepia set of Piezo tone  inks. I was
> so unimpressed with the results compared top my IP prints, I just stop
> "playing" and got back to printing. It does seem that Studio Print and the
> K7/K6 set is a better set up for the older machines.  
> 
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
> Stracke
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:41 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Comparing prints for that "3 dimensional quality"?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> A note on my personal experience with older printers, QTR and K6 inks.
> 
> I got on the K7 bandwagon early on with a 2200 and was very, very pleased
> with the 
> results. I located a used 7000 a little bit later and bought it to use with
> QTR and the K6 
> set. After changing out the heads and doing a full alignment I set to
> printing and was 
> surprised by the fact that I could see dots quite clearly on my test image
> in certain parts of 
> the greyscale. I've used another 7000 for years with StudioPrint so I was
> surprised that the 
> quality of the print with the K6 inks was not as fine as that which I have
> been getting from 
> Piezotones with only 4 positions. I was using the curves supplied with QTR,
> the ones made 
> by Jon's studio, so the it shouldn't have been my incompetence in making
> curves that 
> caused the problems.
> 
> As a control I downloaded a test version of StudioPrint to try out with the
> K6 inks and sure 
> enough the results were much, much better. I've bought a v12 StudioPrint and
> am happily 
> printing with that now. Not a cheap solution by any means, but the quality
> is worth the 
> cost.
> 
> My test image includes a gradient so it's very easy to see dots when they
> show up in some 
> section of the grey ramp. I may have been more picky than most, but I just
> wasn't happy 
> with the results of the 7000 with QTR. I've subsequently tried out QTR with
> my other 7000 
> (running Piezotones) and the noticeable dots are there as well. I've even
> tried QTR with an 
> ancient Epson 3000 and get similarly disappointing results, but with Cone's
> old plug-in 
> module I can get very smooth prints from even this old machine. Maybe it's
> me, perhaps I 
> just don't get QTR somehow, but with the older printers I haven't found the
> results to 
> measure up to the standard set by StudioPrint. The results with the 2200 and
> QTR are 
> quite stunning and just as fine, or finer, than the 7000 with the more
> expensive rip. How 
> this translates into 7600-9600-10000 Epsons I can't say since I have no
> experience there.
> 
> Hope this helps someone.
> 
> Mark Stracke
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joost Horsten" <j.h.j.h@> > 
> >Another, perhaps related, question: isn't there a big difference 
> > between the variable size dot 7600 and the older fixed size dot 
> > models? 
> 
> > > > you can get a used 7000, 7600, or 4000 for very reasonable 
> > prices, QTR
> > > > for 50$, the inkset and be up and going with extraordinary high
> > > > quality and good print size for far less money and no hassle...
> > > > This of course, after deciding you want that kind of setup.
> > > > I had the chance to get a used 7600 for $500 and passed it up, 
> > stupid...
> > > > Tyler.
> > >
> >
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