Walker, this rocked. Excellent, and a deserved slap ont he wrist for missing the shoot out in person. Hopefully next time I'll have more freak flyer miles built up. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Walker Blackwell <wblackwell@...> wrote: > > Good sum-up Bill Kennedy. I think we are all a little way excited > about HP and Cannon. No need to be. They are just adding to the soup. > A few questions that I've been talking about with other people are: > With new competition how will all of the inks shake out? Who's going > to be a loser and who a winner? > > I've been thinking about this issue since the print-off and I've come > to realize that there's room to grow. I believe there is and will- > always-be a place for true monochrome quad/hex/sept/etc ink even with > Canon and HP running quad Ks. I think that the industry is currently > modeled around a system of choice and that is healthy. Every ink will > find its nitch just like the silver papers of yor. Agfa/Bergger has/ > had the cream down. Ilford has/had that sweet warm and good neutral, > etc. Now that much of the longevity issues are figured out, each > company that makes inks is able to expand and deepen its quality. > > I think there are three large things that are currently hindering > both the fine-art digital output market and user base. > > #1. Quality control. There's a lot of great stuff coming out but it > has a large percentage of error. This has been a problem with silver > papers as well but not nearly as much. As the market matures into its > second generation, I believe the companies with less quality control > will begin to suffer. > > #2. An over-focus on method and less of a focus on aesthetic. To a > certain extent, not consciously focusing on aesthetic actually helps > it grow in a real way. Back in the day there were a lot of totally > amazing photographers that called themselves scientists and had no > articulated artistic pursuits. Today the weight of history in > photography is always a pulling drag and a great re-source. But the > truth of the matter is, we can't look at this new technology in the > same innocent light of photo 1.0. We need to take it for what it is > "a new way to print" and then we need to continue with our work: > making good prints, making good photographs. > > #3. True physical community. We need to tie the full re-source of > our great history of photography directly to the current technology > and not quibble over the finer details. I hope that eventually we > will begin to create a formal, cultural lexicon that will be neutral > and varied enough to include the breadth of digital output. Currently > we are getting so much stuff thrown at us that we are getting caught > in the mud of description. Although this forum is helpful, we are > still just looking at computer screens and not at each-other's > prints. That would probably be way more fun because the truth of the > matter is, we are all more fascinated by a beautiful physical print > than an LCD screen. By meeting face to face and seeing each-others' > prints in the light, we will over-come many of the arguments that go > on on this forum about (for example) quads vs color mixing, etc. > Hopefully we will see the strength and weakness of every medium > (because every medium has both) and begin to each get a grasp of the > over-all shape of the digital print world. We all have a sort-of > built in idea of the general shape of the silver world because it's > been around for over a century. But it's up to us to create the shape > of the digital out-put world. And we can't build that shape without > meeting face to face. > > all right, now I'm going to go crazy mixing quads on StudioPrint v12 > (because you can do that now, finally). I'll see you all after a > couple of rolls of hahnemuhle. > > Walker >
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Re: [Digital BW] the times, they aren't a-changing
2006-11-13 by Tyler Boley
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