Digital BW, The Print

Tyler,

I'm using the MIS K4 inks (minus the LLK) in my 4000 and driving this  
with the ColorBurst X-Photo RIP.  I made a CMYK grayscale profile for  
the new Innova F-Type Gloss for use with the 4000/ColorBurst RIP and  
the B&W prints are virtually indistinguishable from the Epson ABW  
mode neutral prints on Innova F-Type from my Epson 2400, using the  
full K4 inkset (with the LLK) and a QTR Create-icc print space  
profile up front.  I like the slightly softer gloss one gets on these  
new hybrid papers with the MIS K4 inks, compared to the Epson K3  
inks.  You may give up a little measurable dmax (I get about 2.3 on  
the Innova F-Type, but I think K3 might give you 2.4), but visually  
the slight glare reduction with the K4 looks better.  Bottom line  
with respect to your question, both ABW and a RIP look great.

Carl

On Apr 22, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen "
> <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>>
>> ...We first made some test prints on the Innova Photo Smooth with the
>> Epson driver with the profile I got from Jim Doyle.  It looked ok,
> but it
>> took forever to spool. Then we tried the same file with IP.
>>
>> We went ahead and downloaded the profile from IP for Innova, I
> forget the
>> new number system that Color Byte is using, but I think it was one
> meant for
>> mixed light.  Since I have had IP for three years, I expected the
> detail to
>> once again come out in the dmax areas, but this was my first look at
> a side
>> by side with the new X800 series. I was not disappointed...
>
> That's what I was curious about. I guess I'd be more interested in how
> IP compares to ABW with a grayscale file, rather than the standard RGB
> driver and an RGB profile...
> Particularly now that IP has eliminated the use of the lightest K ink.
>
>> The down side is
>> now that customer will want to see that in all her prints, so I may
> need to
>> pony up the fee for my IP and add the 4800...
>
> Well, see if she can guarantee you enough additional work to justify
> the cost of the upgrade <G>.
> Tyler