Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Clayton - I think the neurons might actually be starting to 
fire. :)  ...finally.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
<cj@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Brian,
> 
> >Thanks for the info!  My goal is to get some consistency across 
my 
> >prints/workflow - and you're right on about 'too many workflow 
> >variables'!!  Assuming that I follow your instructions/settings 
> >exactly then there shouldn't be a significant difference between 
BO 
> >and full ink when using Gamma 2.2, correct?     
> 
> Well, possibly not, because that wouldn't be following the
> instructions exactly.  The article recommends using DG20 for the
> default gray space setting and image profile, printer profile set 
to
> Same As Source (or No Color Management in CS2), and printer gamma 
1.8.
>  With those settings I can go between BO and full ink printing. 
> That's the combination I've found that gives me the most 
versatility
> and good WYSIWYG.  It isn't carved in stone - you can use anything 
you
> want and make it work, but there are trade-offs for everything.  
The
> above combination is just a sort of sweet spot that I find most
> convenient and hassle free.
> 
> 
> 
> >As for my initial issue, the one potential (and potentially 
> >significant as you mentioned below) issue is that I may or may 
not 
> >have converted the image to grayscale prior to printing - and 
> >therefore the image could have been using Adobe 1998 instead of 
DG20 
> >which may have made a difference between the two ink settings (BO 
& 
> >full ink). 
> 
> Quite possibly.  I do everything in grayscale.  I did lots of
> experiments in the early days and found no advantage to staying in 
RGB
> mode, with files three times as big.  With a color digicam image I
> manipulate the RGB channels during conversion to BW, but once 
that's
> done I convert to grayscale.
> 
> BTW, an important part of this workflow is having the gray space in
> Color Settings set to DG20.  Having it at GG2.2 and later assigning
> the image profile to DG20 won't do the job.  The gray space 
setting is
> what determines the actual image pixel values at the time of 
grayscale
> conversion (or importing a scanned neg).  Assigning a different
> profile later merely changes how it's displayed on screen - it 
won't
> change the image or the print.  In order to do that the profile 
must
> be Converted.  But if you convert after you have worked on the 
image
> it will change everything you've done (it will look the same on 
screen
> but will change the image and the print).  So it's best to have it 
go
> to the profile you want right at the beginning, whether scanning a 
neg
> or using a color digicam file.  
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
>