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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Somewhat embarrassing 220/2400 BO confession

2006-03-21 by Carl Schofield

The MIS K4 inkset for the 2400 includes Ebony for the matte black  
option.  Ebony in the 2400 does produce a higher dmax on some 3rd  
party papers (notably Hahnemuhle Photo Rag) compared to the Epson  
matte black, but just the opposite is true for epson papers (eg.  
epson MK give higher dmax on Velvet FIne Art compared to Ebony).  All  
of these comparisons are with reference to using ABW mode on the 2400  
- not BO, which is not available on the 2400 (You can specify "BLACK"  
in the Mac 2400 driver but it will still use all of the color inks).

Carl

On Mar 21, 2006, at 2:48 PM, how786 wrote:

>   Thanks Brian.
>   Perhaps Clayton can help me out here since he has done so much work
> on the 200 with BO and I think also prints on a 2400.
>   I wonder if anyone ever tried Eboni Black in the 2400......
>   I am still in a bit of shock regarding how darn good the prints look
> from the 220 BO. It's pretty astounding. I sure hope it doesn't come
> to me buying a 2200 for large BO prints (!) I'm hoping Clayton will
> know what I can tweak in my 2400 drivers to at least approximate the
> lovely look of BO/220.
>  Thanks
>   Howard
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Ellis"
> <bellis60@...> wrote:
>>
>> "I sure hope it isn't a
>> function of the Eboni Black simply being better ink."
>>
>> I don't know about "better" but as I recall several people here have
> posted
>> dMax measurements of Eboni compared to Epson MK and Eboni did in
> fact have a
>> greater dMax though I don't remember the difference being dramatic.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "how786" <how786@...>
>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:09 PM
>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Somewhat embarrassing 220/2400 BO  
>> confession
>>
>>
>> OK.  I need some help here. I'm still fiddling around with my 2400
>> trying to make a print that matches the 220 BO output. (How
>> bizarre)Right now, I'm getting closer. The main difference is that  
>> the
>> 220 BO prints have deeper blacks.
>>  I'm not sure what to adjust in the 2400 ADV. B&W driver to deepen  
>> the
>> blacks. I'd appreciate some help with this.....I sure hope it isn't a
>> function of the Eboni Black simply being better ink!
>>  Thanks
>>  Howard
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "how786"
>> <how786@> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Today, I finally got down to seriously testing and looking at 8X10
>>> prints made by my 2400 and comparing them to BO (Eboni Black) prints
>>> made on my 220. I did my prints on Merlin Natural.
>>>  My surprising confession/conclusion is that no matter how hard I  
>>> try
>>> to tweak the 2400 prints in the Advanced B&W mode, I find the 220 BO
>>> prints more pleasing to my eye. I am in somewhat of a stunned state
>>> regarding this. That a printer I paid $69 for can make a print  
>>> that I
>>> prefer over those made in my $700 printer shocks my sensibility.
>>>  I am going to try some more to see if I can just get the 2400 to
>>> match what the 220 is outputing.
>>>  Best to all
>>>  Howard
>>>
>>
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