Digital BW, The Print

Joakim,

The ImagePrint discussion is a very involved one.  To keep it simple, 
they use a single formula for ink limits and linearization and build 
that formula into the inkset.  So, the UC inkset with the matte black 
ink will have one formula - period.  If that amount of ink works well 
with the paper you are using, you will get a good print.  If not, you 
will have a non-optimum amount of ink, which will result in poor Dmax 
and color gamut.  I agree it is very expensive for what you get.  It 
has some nice layout features, but those alone aren't worth the price 
in my opinion.

QTR is discussed regularly on this forum.  You can download a free 
trial at www.quadtonerip.com.  If you like it, you pay a fee of 
$50US.  QTR is ONLY for use with B&W, or toned B&W images, but will 
work with any inkset (quad inks, color inks, etc.). 

Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "joaskild" 
<joaskild@...> wrote:
>
> Lou,
> 
> Thanks for you raplay. I am supriced (and happy) that you get 
better Dmax, color gemut 
> ect. by using epsons own driver. I have only read about this 
Imageprint and somehow 
> understood that the result was in a diffent lige than streat from 
the epson driver. 
> 
> I would be interested in hearing more about you experince with 
Imageprint and the 
> diffence from using it streat from the epson driver. Are there a 
big diffence in Dmax and 
> how come they make this expencive Imageprint softwere and miss a 
good Dmax? Differes 
> the same pictures otherwice when printed from the epson driver and 
from the imageprint? 
> 
> I would like to read more about the QTR for black and whrite can 
you rekoment a good 
> link?
> 
> Thanks for you time,
> 
> Joakim
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Louis Dina" 
<lbdina@> wrote:
> >
> > Joakim,
> > 
> > Why don't you just buy the 7800 without either ImagePrint or a 
> > calibration package and try it out first?  You may find that the 
> > Epson profiles give you exactly what you need, without spending 
extra 
> > money on ImagePrint or a calibration package.
> > 
> > Then, if you decide you need better performance, you can buy the 
> > right solution.  For B&W, QTR ($50) will do a better job than 
> > ImagePrint (I own both).  Also, a lot of people are very happy 
with 
> > the advanced B&W mode on the 7800.
> > 
> > For color, I'd use the Epson driver with a custom profile if the 
> > Epson standard profiles prove to be inadequate.  You'll generally 
get 
> > better color gamut, saturation and Dmax from the Epson driver 
than 
> > you will from ImagePrint, and the Epson driver comes with the 
printer 
> > at no extra charge.  I'd buy the calibration package instead of 
> > ImagePrint if you decide your canned profiles aren't good enough 
for 
> > your needs.
> > 
> > Lou
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "joaskild" 
> > <joaskild@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I am planning to bay the epson 7800 and the ImagePrint 6.1 rip. 
My 
> > qouistian is are ther any 
> > > need in investing in any eye-one or other calibratores for 
> > calibratin of paperes when the 
> > > profiles of ImagePrint 6.1 should be very good and better that 
I 
> > maby could make with an 
> > > own calibrator. Are the printeres so price made that they are 
the 
> > same color from one printer 
> > > to the next? 
> > > 
> > > Anybady having experince of this softwere and are they using 
> > calibratores?
> > > 
> > > Thanks you,
> > > 
> > > Joakim Eskildsen
> > >
> >
>