Digital BW, The Print

Will, et al: I am just getting back to this after many
other "issues" having erupted - including the death of
my mother ( a blessing at this point but very sad for
me nevertheless) so as to interrupt this ... but I
don't see a QTR Gray-matte.icc anywhere on my system
(QTR Gui, XP, and PS CS2).  What am I missing? I'd
truly love to get these NK7's in my 2200 working
properly as they are incredibly smooth.

Thanks for any help any can give. BTW, I have since
paid the shareware fee for the QTR

Thanks again...Michael

--- Will <will@...> wrote:

> Michael,
> 
> You might try using QTR Gray-Matte.icc as your
> profile instead of Gray 
> Gamma 2.2 with the K7's ( profile>convert: GG 2.2 to
> Gray-Matte with 
> Black Point Compensation checked). I realize that
> the K7 Quick Start 
> Guide recommends GG2.2, but in my experience
> Gray-Matte works much 
> better, so much so that with my printer if I didn't
> know any better, I'd 
> say the K7 curves were designed for use with
> Gray-Matte.icc. I should 
> mention though that this is with Innova Photo Smooth
> Cotton and using a 
> hardware calibrated monitor. With this work flow,
> the prints look very 
> much like my monitor - no soft proofing needed. I've
> never thought the 
> K7's lacked any punch compared to any other inks
> I've ever used or seen, 
> including Piezos, MIS, UC's or K3's.
> The other option you might try is to have a proper
> profile built for 
> you, though without a hardware calibrated monitor,
> all bets are off.
> 
> Will
> 
>  
> 
> >From: Michael Vendrell <mjvendrell2@...>
> >Subject: Piezo NK7  vs  R220 UTR2 W  vs  C86 EZW
> >
> >ALL: I just loaded Piezo NK7's into my 2200 and
> >printed an old standby scanned negative with a full
> >range of tones including many dark grays.  Using
> the
> >QTR HPR 2880 NK7 curves and QTR the print was very
> >much lighter overall than same on 220 UTR2W with
> Paul
> >Roark's gamma 2.2 curve with the Epson driver; or
> C86
> >with EZW and Paul Roark's recommended settings in
> the
> >Epson driver.  All were sent with a gamma 2.2
> profile
> >embedded - psd's for the 220 and C86 and tiff for
> the
> >QTR.  The R220 and C86 prints are very similar
> except
> >the C86 is noticeably warmer - but the densities
> are
> >quite similar. In order to get the NK7 on the 2200
> to
> >match the other two in overall density, I had to
> place
> >the ink limit slider in QTR at +35 and the gamma
> >slider to +15.
> >
> >BTW, on HPR the NK7 is less warm yet (near neutral
> to
> >my eye) than the R220 with the UTR2Warm and much
> >cooler than the C86 with EZWarm.  For this image I
> >prefer the somewhat warm R220 Warm set  - but such
> >things are, of course, a matter of taste.
> >
> >The Piezo NK7 is indeed very smooth, although to my
> >eye it lacks a bit of "punch" relative to the other
> >two and the d-max is less even with the +35 ink
> limit
> >setting.
> >
> >Am I missing something, or do I have some setting
> >wrong in the QTR for the NK7's in the 2200, such
> that
> >I must almost max out the ink limits and density to
> >get a WYSIWYG with this system? The WYSIWYG with
> the
> >other two systems is quite close even though I have
> >only calibrated my monitor visually with the Adobe
> >gamma loader. Any thoughts and advice would be
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Michael Vendrell, MD.
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 


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