Digital BW, The Print

I agree; I'd like to see less of a gloss and more of a sheen, but I wouldn't go so far as to 
say I'd prefer a "much more matte" version personally.  The soft sheen of Hahn. Photo Rag 
Satin is more to my liking.  (That paper also has too much texture and, unlike Silver Rag, 
does show some "gloss differential" between adjacent dark and light areas, since the sheen 
on Satin is produced by the ink on paper -- the paper itself is matte).


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> 
wrote:
>
> This stuff looks like Ilford Smooth Pearl in terms of gloss.  I'd prefer a
> much more matte version.  The fact that it feels stiffer and heavier is
> worth zip once it's framed.
> 
> 
> > From: chipcarterdc <chipcarterdc@h...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:51:53 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Museo Silver Rag impressions
> > 
> > Back on topic, below is the email I just sent to Crane's with my initial
> > impressions of Silver
> > Rag printed on my Epson 98000 w. Pghhoto Black:
> > 
> > "I have just printed some Silver Rag yesterday on my Epson 9800 with Photo
> > Black ink and 
> > the prints look spectacular.  I obviously need to consider them some more (I'm
> > going to 
> > look at the prints again today after they're fully dried), but my initial
> > reaction is that this
> > paper is fabulous.
> > 
> > My only concerns are that (a) it's a bit too glossy and (b) it's a bit too
> > textured.  Put 
> > together, the high gloss and texture create obtrusive reflectivity when the
> > print is viewed 
> > at any angle other than flat on a table or flat against a wall.  In other
> > words, if the paper is
> > tilted at all (and I don't mean severely titled -- just any position that's
> > not perfectly flat),
> > or if the light is coming at the paper from an oblique angle, the
> > glossiness/reflectivity
> > becomes obtrusive and obscures the details.  So, my initial gut reaction is to
> > suggest that 
> > Crane cut the current "gloss" (currently more like an RC darkroom paper) down
> > to a 
> > "sheen" (more like a air-dried fiber darkroom print) and minimize the texture
> > a bit.  (I 
> > don't think the texture should be eliminated, however -- the texture gives
> > this paper a 
> > unique appearance.  But to truly be closer to an air-dried fiber print, the
> > textured should 
> > be lessened somewhat).  Keep in mind, though, that the image I was printing
> > for the 
> > samples was a B&W portrait will large areas of black (i.e., a
> > head-and-shoulders portrait
> > against a black background), so I imagine that that may have something to do
> > with the 
> > obtrusive gloss when viewed in any position other than perfectly flat.
> > 
> > If the "obtrusive reflectivity when hit by oblique light" issue can be
> > minimized, Silver Rag
> > will quickly become my primary paper."
> > 
> > (I should add that even if the paper is released as-is, I will still probably
> > use it quite a bit)).
> > 
> >
>