Digital BW, The Print

Josh,  Thanks for your reply.  I did use IJM's curve
for the QTR GUI - the one I called "QTR HPR 2880 NK7 "
@100%. But the print was way too light without
adjusting the <ink limit>  and <gamma> sliders in the
QTR GUI. Do I need to use either that curve or another
curve somewhere else - or can I insert the curve into
the <print with preview> of PS CS2 instead or in
addition to, for example?  

Gray gamma 2.2 is/has been my working space and has
also been embedded with this tiff "test" file.  Are
you saying I should print from PS CS2 without using
the QTR GUI? 

I do so far prefer the <print with profile> options
that are in PS CS2 to those in the QTR GUI for layout
- e.g. one can specify a print size directly and
easily "center" the print with the bottom margin wider
than the other 3 margins. Again, am I missing
something about the QTR GUI?

BTW, yesterday was my 1st use of QTR and I will pay
soon - I just wanted to get the 1st print to "work"
first.  Maybe I'm just not doing something right or am
being incomplete in what needs to be done? Thanks
again for any help anyone is able to offer.

Michael Vendrell

--- joshhackney <joshhackney@...> wrote:

> 
> Michael,
> 
> If you don't have the ability to create your own
> profiles using QTR-create-icc, then you 
> need to be using Grey gamma 2.2 as your working
> space, and print with no color 
> management from PS.  If you have a densitometer or
> spectrophotometer, I HIGHLY 
> recommend using the IJM supplied curve for
> linearization, and then make your own 
> profiles.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> Michael Vendrell 
> <mjvendrell2@y...> wrote:
> >
> > ALL: I just loaded Piezo NK7's into my 2200 and
> > printed an old standby scanned negative with a
> full
> > range of tones including many dark grays.  Using
> the
> > QTR HPR 2880 NK7 curves and QTR the print was very
> > much lighter overall than same on 220 UTR2W with
> Paul
> > Roark's gamma 2.2 curve with the Epson driver; or
> C86
> > with EZW and Paul Roark's recommended settings in
> the
> > Epson driver.  All were sent with a gamma 2.2
> profile
> > embedded - psd's for the 220 and C86 and tiff for
> the
> > QTR.  The R220 and C86 prints are very similar
> except
> > the C86 is noticeably warmer - but the densities
> are
> > quite similar. In order to get the NK7 on the 2200
> to
> > match the other two in overall density, I had to
> place
> > the ink limit slider in QTR at +35 and the gamma
> > slider to +15.
> > 
> > BTW, on HPR the NK7 is less warm yet (near neutral
> to
> > my eye) than the R220 with the UTR2Warm and much
> > cooler than the C86 with EZWarm.  For this image I
> > prefer the somewhat warm R220 Warm set  - but such
> > things are, of course, a matter of taste.
> > 
> > The Piezo NK7 is indeed very smooth, although to
> my
> > eye it lacks a bit of "punch" relative to the
> other
> > two and the d-max is less even with the +35 ink
> limit
> > setting.
> > 
> > Am I missing something, or do I have some setting
> > wrong in the QTR for the NK7's in the 2200, such
> that
> > I must almost max out the ink limits and density
> to
> > get a WYSIWYG with this system? The WYSIWYG with
> the
> > other two systems is quite close even though I
> have
> > only calibrated my monitor visually with the Adobe
> > gamma loader. Any thoughts and advice would be
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > Michael Vendrell, MD.
> > 
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