Digital BW, The Print

Hey Tyler,

Hope you had a good Christmas.

I was only suggesting spraying the Crane Silver Rag when used with 
the K2 Ultrachromes on say a 9600. My feeling is that they were 
creatively created for the new inks instead, which if true really 
improves my opinion of Crane 1000%. Those won't need spraying at 
all. I have worked enough in offset output in years past to realize 
that Crane has been a very innovative quality paper company for a 
long time. But it took them quite a while to get out of the starting 
gate in the piezzo inkjet arena. There is no telling how long they 
have been working on this.

I agree that uv sprays are a stop gap measure for black and white or 
color imaging and I hope it is all temporary. However, in the little 
world that I live in, if they double the life of a print I'm going 
to make it a part of my consideration if not my daily workflow. I 
might even start charging more for the service.

Since you have used Piezzotone almost exclusively for the past few 
years you have not had to deal with as much tenderness that is 
present with Ultrachrome. The new K3 is an innovation in that 
department too, with a more durable surface. Epson has done their 
homework. K2 scratched much too easily on everything.

I have the strange feeling that when I set up a 9800 it will indeed 
be with a Photo black. What I really wish is that I could use a 
Photo Black also with the Cone neutral inks and try out this new 
gloss substrate with them, but I can't see how that would be 
possible at this point.

Did you receive your 9800 yet? I would love to hear your opinions of 
the monochrome output in comparison to what you have been doing.

John



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@t...> wrote:
>
> John, I've read your opinions about spraying before and respect 
them.
> However, in my opinion, an inkjet paper that REQUIRES spraying to
> function will not sell well in the marketplace, may even fail.
> Arguably, the K3s may be conquering the world and if it works 
easily
> with them they are home free. So far, too few reports.
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for that report Mark. This is pretty much what I've heard 
> > elsewhere. Somehow I think Crane knew about the direction Epson 
was 
> > going with K3 (just my theory)and beat everybody to the punch. 
As 
> > for the very slight bronzing with K2 UC, hell, that's what they 
make 
> > Premier Art Spray  for and that will only increase you dmax. I'm 
> > glad an American company has finally produced a product worth 
> > buying. It gives me some hope.
> > 
> > John
>