Digital BW, The Print

Your welcome, I'm glad you found this helpful.

I suppose if you wanted a tone in between what you can achive using 
this method I suppose one could mix the warm and neutral inks at 
various ratios in one or two of the carts.
Happy experimenting.
Randy

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DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
<scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for posting this.
> 
> It is really helpful to me.
> 
> I was using PK and all "N" inks and felt is was a little on the 
cool 
> side. Pk and all "W" was too warm, especially with high key images.
> 
> I'm now using PK, N,N,W with Kirkland (Epson C86 printer,of 
course!) 
> and the prints look really neutral to me.
> 
> I've bookmarked this post for future reference.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Scott
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Randy 
Rancier" 
> <randy_rancier2004@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > I haven't posted a message in a long while, several months, but 
> I've 
> > been wanting to post my findings as to various degrees of warm 
vs. 
> > neutral prints by mixing the warm and neutral cartridges (carts) 
on 
> > my Epson C84.  Maybe someone has already posted this info but I 
> > haven't seen it and maybe this will be helpful to others using 
the 
> > EZ B&W inks, which are absolutely great.  The C84 & C86 are only 
> > fair when printing color as compared to Epsons photo grade 
> printers, 
> > but are wonderful for B&W with the EZ ink sets.
> > 
> > Before giving you the particulars below here is my results 
rating 
> > from neutral to the warmest prints.
> > CW = Cyan warm cart; MN = Magenta neutral cart and so on...  
There 
> > are only 8 different combinations of the warm and neutral carts.
> > 
> > 1. CN-MN-YN  the most neutral print
> > 2. CN-MN-YW  a little warmer
> > 3. CW-MN-YN
> > 4. CN-MW-YN
> > 5. CW-MN-YW
> > 6. CW-MW-YN
> > 7. CN-MW-YW
> > 8. CW-MW-YW  obviously the warmest
> > 
> > I found very little difference between combinations 3&4, and 
also 
> > between 6&7 and with further testing might flip-flop.  There was 
a 
> > more decernable difference between the other steps.
> > 
> > This is how I performed the test and other useful info:  I have 
the 
> > neutral set of carts (cartridges) and a warm set of carts.  Both 
> > sets are used with the Eboni black since the shades between warm 
> and 
> > neutral is determined in the midtones and highlights.  One thing 
> > everyone should know if you don't already is that the ink in the 
> > cyan (C), magenta (M), and the yellow (Y) in both the warm carts 
> and 
> > the neutral carts is exactly the same ink.  In other words when 
> > refilling the warm and neutral carts all you need is one bottle 
of 
> > the warm and one bottle of the neutral for each of the C,M, and 
Y 
> > carts.  I comfirmed this with MIS and Paul Roark.  I used a 
Epson 
> > C84 printer with Epson Heavyweight Matte Paper, which has 
optical 
> > brightners (OB).  I find that in general papers with OB's print 
> > colder or more neutral and those without OB's tend to print 
warmer.
> > The rating from the most neutral to warmest was by sight and 
> > therefore somewhat subjective, but isn't that the way it is with 
> > everything about B&W prints.
> > 
> > Hope this is helpful,
> > Randy