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Re: [Digital BW] Mis eboni ink dmax

2005-01-14 by Tony Bonanno

Thanks Paul, that clears it up.... Eboni for BO.

Tony

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> >Then someone who is contemplating using BO printing with the 
Epson 
> >PRO 4000 would probably do well to just stay with the UC matte 
black 
> >instead of replacing it with the Eboni Black ?? 
> 
> I would use the Eboni in BO due to its more neutral color.   The 
UC MK I
> would consider seriously only for the very darkest areas where the 
color is
> masked.
> 
> I would definitely use MIS PKN3 for BO glossies.  (Do not call MIS 
about
> this yet.  It's not yet on the web site.)
> 
> >... when I had my 2200, the Eboni gave me better results 
> >and I used it for all my B&W printing.  
> >But maybe not the case with the 4000 ??
> 
> For BO, I think it probably still will be the case -- Eboni for 
BO, MK for
> best dmax where color doesn't matter much.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> __________________________________
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > At the 4000 level, the dmax difference has
> > become more noticeable.  The same thing was happening with 
respect 
> to the
> > PK.  That is one reason I decided to experiment with different 
PK 
> mixes.
> > Unfortunately, the same tricks will not work with Eboni.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: charlsalash [mailto:gureghianj@n...] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:52 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Mis eboni ink dmax
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I've been testing  mis eboni black with BO on EEM (epson 2200).
> >    Prints are cooler with mis ink but the dmax is also 
noticeably 
> lower. 
> >   Overall I find the print made with Eboni black less pleasing.
> >   You can (apparently) raise the Dmax by adding somme contrast 
to 
> the
> > print, but then I find the tonal range less pleasing.
> > 
> >   
> >    Anybody else noticed? 
> > 
> >   Jerome.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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