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RE: [Digital BW] Mis eboni ink dmax

2005-01-14 by Paul Roark

>Then someone who is contemplating using BO printing with the Epson 
>PRO 4000 would probably do well to just stay with the UC matte black 
>instead of replacing it with the Eboni Black ?? 

I would use the Eboni in BO due to its more neutral color.   The UC MK I
would consider seriously only for the very darkest areas where the color is
masked.

I would definitely use MIS PKN3 for BO glossies.  (Do not call MIS about
this yet.  It's not yet on the web site.)

>... when I had my 2200, the Eboni gave me better results 
>and I used it for all my B&W printing.  
>But maybe not the case with the 4000 ??

For BO, I think it probably still will be the case -- Eboni for BO, MK for
best dmax where color doesn't matter much.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> At the 4000 level, the dmax difference has
> become more noticeable.  The same thing was happening with respect 
to the
> PK.  That is one reason I decided to experiment with different PK 
mixes.
> Unfortunately, the same tricks will not work with Eboni.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charlsalash [mailto:gureghianj@n...] 
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:52 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Mis eboni ink dmax
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   I've been testing  mis eboni black with BO on EEM (epson 2200).
>    Prints are cooler with mis ink but the dmax is also noticeably 
lower. 
>   Overall I find the print made with Eboni black less pleasing.
>   You can (apparently) raise the Dmax by adding somme contrast to 
the
> print, but then I find the tonal range less pleasing.
> 
>   
>    Anybody else noticed? 
> 
>   Jerome.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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