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Re: Lyson SG Inks

2001-11-05 by dkdion@home.com

I switched from Cones Piezo BW to Lyson Small Gamut in my 1160 due to 
severe clogging problems (although I love the look of the Piezo BW
prints). So 
far no clogging and very good results with Lyson Standard Fine Art
Paper and 
Epson Photo Matte and SG inks; also pretty good with Epson Photo
paper; a 
pretty good glossy print. I tried a few other papers (Arches CP and
HP) but 
was not impressed. For me, I still prefer the tone and depth of
Cone's Piezo 
BW, but for now, I am happy with Lyson SG and no clogs. (I have also
tried 
MIS quad and Lyson neutral quad). I'm thinking of getting Cone's
Piezo BW 
for my 3000 which has larger print head size and larger cartridges. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sturos@m... wrote:
> Good Morning All;
> 
> I was at the PhotoExpo in NY last week specifically to check out 
> alternate inks for b/w printing.
> 
> Have had great disappointments with the Cone Piezography system 
> especially regards clogging problems and incompatibility with
anything 
> other than a really flat matte paper.
> 
> Have e-mailed/spoken with the MIS people and they at least (unlike 
> Cone's group) were very upfront about the limitations of using
their 
> inks with the paper of my choosing (Epson's Premium Luster, or 
> Semi-Gloss are both lovely, and most like the Ilford Pearl surface 
> I've been using for years...)
> 
> Given the total failure of piezography I've taken to printing b/w 
> using the color inkset on an Epson 1270; not a bad way to go, but
far 
> from perfect.
> 
> In any event, I had a long talk with, and eventually ordered
supplies 
> from the Lyson folks. They have started to sell a Small Gamut
inkset; 
> it differs from their quad black inkset in that it allows for some 
> tonal adjustments, allowing for similar effects to printing on 
> portriga rapid, or selenium toning prints for instance.
> Moreover, they claim it's archival, and sell a nice semi-gloss
paper 
> (they call it Satin), is made by Hahnemule (sic) and which they
claim 
> is fully compatible.
> 
> Anybody out there have any experience using this system???
> After a full year of frustration in my attempts to standardize b/w 
> inkjet printing, reading the forums, talking to others I'm
convinced 
> that using a system, ie; paper and ink from the same manufacturere
is 
> the way to go...Though most people seem to be sold on either Cone
or 
> MIS inks it doesn't really work for me...

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