Digital BW, The Print

Bill,

I really don't know. The VM toners are a strong blue and a red-orange. I
have tried some prints with the Piezo drive and standard VM and they were
very blue. At least half way to cyanotype in intensity with strong
posterization. So any adjustments to the Piezo driver would be pretty
extreme. If the Piezo driver is a CMYK RIP then it could be done but the
Piezo driver and the R9 plug-in are black boxes at the moment, and the color
management scheme is an unknown.

What R9 or Conetech could do would be to offer profiles within their plug-in
to give a better match with other Piezo compatible ink sets on some of the
more popular papers. I would think this would be fairly straight forward and
could become a selling point for the company that wanted to pursue it.

In any case I think the preferred business model from an end user point of
view is a separation of the ink makers and the software vendors. ColorByte
seems to be in the best position to pursue this but VM support for the
desktop version of their RIP is still in development I gather. They will
have an up hill battle at $500 against a $150 plug-in even though the
ImagePrint RIP offers much more functionality. Perhaps they need to pursue a
grayscale only RIP at a lower price. Once they offer support for both VM and
Piezo family inks then even at $500 it may be good deal assuming you don't
have to buy a license for each printer you are using.

Having two printers, one with a MIS-VM and one with a Piezo compatible ink
set, and multiple drivers, still seems like the best way to go at the moment
if you can manage the cost and space requirements.

Martin Wesley
http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Morse" <willym@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Sundance Inks


Hi Martin

Would it be possible with this plug-in to use the VM inks if you profiled
the ink and paper combination?  I know the inks are different densities, but
couldn\ufffdt that be controlled with a profile?

Bill
on 6/27/02 4:21 PM, Martin Wesley wrote:

> Karen,
>
>> > Both R9 & DAS believe that using
>> > ImageExportBW with an inkset that has been calibrated (Sundance
>> > Neutral Warm Inks) produces results that are superior to other
>> > technologies currently available. However it can be used with other
>> > inksets;  please note that the ImageExportBW plugin will not perform
>> > to its maximum capability when used with unsupported inks or media.
>> > It also may not perform exactly as the user intended.
>
> This is a good point and one that people should keep in mind. I think that
> other ink sets have worked well with the Piezo driver but some ink sets on
> some papers are not always quite dead-on when you print a step wedge. I
> noticed this when I printed with blends of the MIS-FS standard and neutral
> tone inks.



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