If you are going to use K3 inks, I would strongly recommend Imageprint. I use it on a 4880 and Piezo SE on a 4800. An Hp 3100 is my 44inch and it produces b/w prints that are great. Rich Www.rmassiephotography.com Sent from my iPad > On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:46 PM, Paul Ozzello <paul.ozzello@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Lots of interesting information, thanks Paul. I'm interested in QTR. If I understand correctly, I need to create a paper profile myself if I want to be able to preview in Photoshop ? Is a colormunki 'good enough' ? I mostly print on matte paper and my preference so far is Epson Hot Press (Bright and Natural) - seems to have the best dMax using standard inks. Am I better off making my own profiles or finding them online (and if so where ?) Does anyone have a QTR profile for Hot Press Bright ? > > I've read so many raving reviews about Imageprint but it costs as much as a piezography conversion.... is it as good as everyone claims ? > > Just about to read your pdf :) > > > Paul > > ________________________________________________ > > Paul OZZELLO > Fine art photography > www.paulozzello.com > Tel: +1.514.451.8399 > Email: paul.ozzello@... > > >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote: >> >> Paul Ozzello <paul.ozzello@...> wrote: >>> >>> ... I would prefer using Epson K3 inks if possible. >> >>> There are so many varying opinions as to inksets, RIPs, it's making my head spin. ... >> >> I no longer teach any workshops, nor to I make any money in ink sales, but we all have our biases. >> >> I'd recommend you learn QTR for you K3 printer. Whether it's going to be smooth enough with only 3 "neutral" inks might depend on your printer and criteria. The ABW Epson driver mode will use more color than I'd like, but it does all some smoothness -- at a cost of longevity and image stability, not to mention a relative lack of control over the process. >> >> I wrote a section in one of the PDFs I made for a workshop that offers a simplified, bare bones overview of how I use QTR. See pages 11 - 18 of http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf . (The inkset used can be ignored. The basics are going to be the same for the K3 inkset.) >> >> The first page of my PDF noted above give some relative longevity numbers. http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/ is the fountain head for longevity information. I have not studied the QTR k3 results, but I assume they are much better than the ABW results. Carbon is king in longevity, so the less color used the better from that perspective. Epson color pigs are very good, but I expect their K, LK, and LLK are better (contain more carbon, even if not 100% carbon). >> >> There are probably a lot of pre-made profiles for the K3 approach not only in the QTR download but also with people on the QTR list. See http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/QuadtoneRIP/conversations/messag >> >> >>> ... I've had to resign myself to the duller look of pigment inks. >> >> I am pursuing a dual marketing approach at the moment -- carbon for high end, dyes for differentiated products that can be sold cheap and not significantly affect the prices of the carbon prints. So far, so good. >> >> >> >>> ... now my stumbling block is B&W inkjet printing (or so I think). >> >> This list and the QTR forum are the best I've found for getting an education. >> >>> ... ideally I would like someone to assess and criticize my work and my processing methods and suggest ways of improving them, ... >> >> Workshops can do some of that. I've found going to shows by others in the field and talking to them is real useful. Look at as many B&W museum and gallery shows as you can. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Paul >> www.PaulRoark.com >> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/ > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Master printing workshop recommendations
2014-01-03 by Richard Massie
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