My way of thinking about all this is "whatever works." SP handles input profiles in weird ways. PS converts and handles (assumed) working spaces (vs actual tuner input profiles) in much more consistent ways. When I was validating ColorBurst for this workflow I was converting in PS and it worked. Whatever works. Walker >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the only way for there to be no SP conversion is if the file is CMYK in the first place, then do the "none" input profile setting as you mention, rather than embedded. >> >> I'm sure Walker has good reason, he's usually 5 steps ahead of me on this stuff (or more), was just wondering... >> >> Tyler >> >> >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Eric Edmondson <eric_edmondson@...> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> It is my understanding that the purpose of this step is to beat SP to the punch and essentially cancel out the CMYK conversion by using the same profile it will ultimately be printed with, rather than letting the program perform an unknown conversion that could be undermining what we're trying to do. Though I could be completely off base here... LOL >> >>> >> >>> It would seem that if I had a CMYK gray patch file, I could skip this step, since SP will allow me to set the input profile to "none" for CMYK files... though I'm sure there's some reason I couldn't do that. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I meant to post some results tonight, but I left my notes at the shop, so I'll post back tomorrow. As was mentioned this morning, I may have gotten as close as I'm going to get to neutral, perhaps it's time to start toning. =) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> >>> From: tyler@... >> >>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:22:55 +0000 >> >>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B/W options for 11880? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Edmondson" <eric_edmondson@> wrote: >> >>>> ... >> >>>> Ok, so after building and profiling my print environment, I converted an >> >>>> untagged RBG gray patch file to the new CMYK profile in PS, using relative >> >>>> with BPC. >> >>> >> >>> I freely admit to paying too little attention to the details of this thread so maybe this is irrelevant, but this step fails to make sense to me. There is no, nor can be, any icc conversion from an unknown source space. If it is indeed untagged then a source space will be assumed, either done in Photoshop, or the RIP... >> >>> So, is a source being used by default that turns out to be useful for this workflow? 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: B/W options for 11880?
2010-04-28 by Walker Blackwell