Digital BW, The Print

Yeah he was at least that far ahead of me... lolMaybe this is a dumb question, but is it possible to create a set of CMYK gray patches for colorport or measure tool?  I mean it's not going to be as simple as 196,196,196; 203,203,203, etc. right?  How would I know what values to assign to make a neutral gray ramp?    

To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
From: tyler@...
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:21:27 +0000
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B/W options for 11880?


















 



  


    
      
      
      the only way for there to be no SP conversion is if the file is CMYK in the first place, then do the "none" input profile setting as you mention, rather than embedded.

I'm sure Walker has good reason, he's usually 5 steps ahead of me on this stuff (or more), was just wondering...

Tyler



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Eric Edmondson <eric_edmondson@...> wrote:

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> It is my understanding that the purpose of this step is to beat SP to the punch and essentially cancel out the CMYK conversion by using the same profile it will ultimately be printed with, rather than letting the program perform an unknown conversion that could be undermining what we're trying to do.  Though I could be completely off base here... LOL  

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> It would seem that if I had a CMYK gray patch file, I could skip this step, since SP will allow me to set the input profile to "none" for CMYK files... though I'm sure there's some reason I couldn't do that.

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> I meant to post some results tonight, but I left my notes at the shop, so I'll post back tomorrow.  As was mentioned this morning, I may have gotten as close as I'm going to get to neutral, perhaps it's time to start toning. =)  

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> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:22:55 +0000

> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B/W options for 11880?

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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Edmondson" <eric_edmondson@> wrote:

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> > Ok, so after building and profiling my print environment, I converted an

> > untagged RBG gray patch file to the new CMYK profile in PS, using relative

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> I freely admit to paying too little attention to the details of this thread so maybe this is irrelevant, but this step fails to make sense to me. There is no, nor can be, any icc conversion from an unknown source space. If it is indeed untagged then a source space will be assumed, either done in Photoshop, or the RIP...

> So, is a source being used by default that turns out to be useful for this workflow? Or is there perhaps a more useful tag for the intended result?

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