Digital BW, The Print

Have you considered an all rag (no synthetics) canvas?  That way you won't need to worry about coating.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Woolfenden" <swoolf@...> wrote:
>
> Glen , remember boards get dinged sooner or later and limited amounts of
> water will get in eventually!! 
> Steve[ board buster of note!]
> 
> to clarify the cotton is going to laminated under the fibreglass on the
> surfboard so water solubility isn't an issue.
> 
> I'm printing with a 3000 using the standard dye inks, mainly because this is
> what I have to work with and the straight paper path on the 3000.
> 
> My main concern with Inkaid and the Digital Ground is if they contain any
> plasticisers (they just list proprietary polymers in the Inkaid MSDS) they
> will likely cause the fibreglass to delaminate.
> 
> I'm aiming to go one up from the traditional rice paper which is very
> difficult to use in large pieces and also to have more vibrancy to the image
> with something closer to inkjet paper output.
> 
> I may end up going with Inkaid or digital grounds, but I have gleaned a few
> interesting ideas from some reading on the net so far, so I'm going to do
> some tests in the meantime.
> 
> regards
> 
> Glenn
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "Heidi R."
> <camerashyest@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Glenn,
> > I hope I didn't miss the point of your question, but if you're printing
> with a pigment ink printer (Epson durabrite or ultrachrome inks are
> pigments), you can print on cotton (or any other fabric) without any kind of
> coating or treatment. The result is pretty good -- the colors will be a
> little less true than on treated fabric, and the resolution somewhat
> reduced. 
> > 
> > If you're printing with a dye ink printer, then the inks will mostly wash
> out and bleed unless you pretreat the cotton with Bubble Jet Set 2000 or a
> similar fixative. 
> > 
> > You could also look into treating with InkAid or Digital Ground, although
> you'd have to seal completely because they're not waterproof.
> > 
> > I hope that helps.
> > Heidi
> > http://GardenDelightsArts.com
> > 
> > From: Glenn <glennrbarry@>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] DIY coating for cotton fabric
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 7:40 PM
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I'd like to try a test printing on cotton fabric, yes I know that there
> are pre-prepared products available, but nothing locally for me anyway.
> > 
> > I am considering just sizing the cotton with gelatin to reduce
> bleedthrough.
> > 
> > It's going to be for the whole bottom of a surfboard, which is why it has
> to be 100% cotton instead of nylons/polyester blends and I don't think
> (actually hoping) the resin will be rejected by the gelatin.
> > Resin doesn't laminate properly to anything synthetic.
> > Does anyone have any other suggestions?
> > I have read about using a combination of water based PVA and white acrylic
> paint, but that much PVA glue will likely delaminate.
> > I'm going for cotton fabric as opposed to rice paper as this board has
> compound curves that are problematic for papers.
> > thanks
> > Glenn
> >
> 
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