Digital BW, The Print

I think that is a reasonable price for handmade papers. I would be  
interested in 16"x20" size for my own work, and like CD Tobie said,  
with deckle edge but some way to keep it flat during printing.

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, gumkeith wrote:

> I appreciate your suggestion. Quantity and size are all important of  
> course but I am currently pulling  16" x 20" for $2.50 a sheet for  
> 100 or less. No doubt this price far exceeds machine made paper, but  
> for the discriminating artist/buyer, handmade Gampi is the king of  
> fibers which may make little difference to a commercial client. In a  
> gallery setting however, it makes an impression.
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia  
> <mark@...> wrote:
>>
>> I think we need to bring cost into the picture too. I assume each  
>> sheet would be a premium price, and well deserved being it is hand  
>> made, but will it be cost efficient for us who print production.  
>> Its a good idea, but before you get us all excited I think you  
>> might want to post a price range you are thinking of selling your  
>> papers. Just a thought.
>>
>> Mark
>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:41 PM, C D Tobie wrote:
>>
>>>>> This is my first post.  I am a papermaker interested in making
>>> handmade sheets of Gampi for  digital printmakers.  To do so will
>>> require a mould suited to your medium.  Mould making is a very
>>> demanding skill so the correct dimension is essential. Are there
>>> standard sizes and weights? If so, please advise which are most  
>>> widely
>>> used. Are the deckles trimmed?  I am using 100% Gampi. The color  
>>> is a
>>> natural buff but I could whiten it with additives. Any advise  
>>> would be
>>> very useful .
>>>
>>> Inkjet sizes are ideally based on the smaller dimension fitting  
>>> one of the standard printer widths, and the length being,  
>>> typically, 1.5 times that width, though other ratios would also be  
>>> desirable. The printer widths are 13", 17", 24",  and then  
>>> possibly 36", as well as 42". You might not want to produce all  
>>> those widths; and the larger of the sizes may not be practical for  
>>> you, but that would be the ideal lineup.
>>>
>>> Deckle edges are wonderful, and would provide a "striking"  
>>> handmade effect, but would need to be carefully taped, to assure  
>>> they do not cause jams and head strikes in the printer. Providing  
>>> pretaped deckle edges, with a removable tape, would be a very  
>>> unique feature.
>>>
>>> Whiteners are quite undesirable in a pH balanced, acid free, long  
>>> life paper, as they fade out over time, and may even cause cascade  
>>> effects that fade the inks as well. Some papers are offered in  
>>> both a whitened and a natural version, to let customers choose for  
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> Coatings are another issue. Many papers use an opaque white  
>>> coating, so that the substrate is totally hidden by the coating. A  
>>> very few inkjet users print on uncoated rag papers, and accept the  
>>> reduced color gamut and weaker blacks as a side effect of that  
>>> choice. There are also less common transparent coatings that  
>>> reside inside, not on top of the media, that can produce an  
>>> excellent gamut, while retaining the look and feel of the substrate.
>>>
>>> A neutralized Gampi paper, with taped deckle edges and a  
>>> transparent coating, in convenient inkjet sizes would be a very  
>>> tempting product. Best of luck!
>>>
>>>
>>> C. David Tobie
>>> Global Product Technology Manager
>>> Digital Imaging and Home Theater
>>> Datacolor inc.
>>> cdtobie@...
>>> www.datacolor.com
>>
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