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Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-03-30 by Chris Strellis

Greeting to you die hard Korg fans,

I have many synths and samplers but I only recently got my Poly 800
and I haven't played with one of those since 1986!

It was a bit tatty and one key on the keyboard did't work but I fixed
that. I changed the battery - fortunately it was a late model 800.

I cleaned her up and added the infamous Moog Slayer mod to it for
knob control for VCF cut off and resonance.

For pics and sound samples head to:

www.strellis.com/poly800.html

As a bonus, there is a set of patches in mp3 format to download and
load into your 800. These are from a defunct UK magazine called
Electronic Soundmaker from 1985.

For more info on this magazine including a review of these patches
and to get the CD:

www.strellis.com/escm.html

If you are into synths generally from this period including
Synclaviers and Fairlights you may want to check out this DVD:

www.strellis.com/synthhistory.html

Best regards

Chris

Re: [DW8000] Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-03-31 by fx maletras

Good job Chris !
What happens to the original settings for cut-off and
reso, do you use knobs with central clicks?
BTW, is there any similar mods for Poly61?

--- Chris Strellis <synthasy2000@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Greeting to you die hard Korg fans,

I have many synths and samplers but I only recently
got my Poly 800
and I haven't played with one of those since 1986!

It was a bit tatty and one key on the keyboard did't
work but I fixed
that. I changed the battery - fortunately it was a
late model 800.

I cleaned her up and added the infamous Moog Slayer
mod to it for
knob control for VCF cut off and resonance.

For pics and sound samples head to:

www.strellis.com/poly800.html

As a bonus, there is a set of patches in mp3 format to
download and
load into your 800. These are from a defunct UK
magazine called
Electronic Soundmaker from 1985.

For more info on this magazine including a review of
these patches
and to get the CD:

www.strellis.com/escm.html

If you are into synths generally from this period
including
Synclaviers and Fairlights you may want to check out
this DVD:

www.strellis.com/synthhistory.html

Best regards

Chris







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Re: [DW8000] Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-03-31 by Stefan Rinass

I´ve also done the Mod for the Poly-800, but imo it doesn´t help much to
improve the sound. It is a nice feature to be able to increase the Reso
until the Filter roars, but to be honest: Who uses more than 50% Reso
for a -useful- sound?

Without effects it sound generally crappy, compared to other Synths of
this time. The biggest mistake of the Poly-800 was its "emulated"
sawtooth-WF and no PW/PWM-Modulation.

Stef

fx maletras wrote:

>
> Good job Chris !
> What happens to the original settings for cut-off and
> reso, do you use knobs with central clicks?
> BTW, is there any similar mods for Poly61?
>
> --- Chris Strellis <synthasy2000@...> wrote:
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> Greeting to you die hard Korg fans,
>
> I have many synths and samplers but I only recently
> got my Poly 800
> and I haven't played with one of those since 1986!
>
> It was a bit tatty and one key on the keyboard did't
> work but I fixed
> that. I changed the battery - fortunately it was a
> late model 800.
>
> I cleaned her up and added the infamous Moog Slayer
> mod to it for
> knob control for VCF cut off and resonance.
>
> For pics and sound samples head to:
>
> www.strellis.com/poly800.html
>
> As a bonus, there is a set of patches in mp3 format to
> download and
> load into your 800. These are from a defunct UK
> magazine called
> Electronic Soundmaker from 1985.
>
> For more info on this magazine including a review of
> these patches
> and to get the CD:
>
> www.strellis.com/escm.html
>
> If you are into synths generally from this period
> including
> Synclaviers and Fairlights you may want to check out
> this DVD:
>
> www.strellis.com/synthhistory.html
>
> Best regards
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [DW8000] Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-03-31 by x x

I enjoy playing the filter sweeps live running around I must agree the resonance is like a monster set to loud I have the speaker blower patch for clubs that ill never play again it will blow out speakers and make people run...I also urge everyone to do the noise mod to so you have three mods to do . Live its fun to jam out on.I must however admit to warmth of the poly 800 it takes some love but i can get a juno style bass and moog etc with ears that have heard the machines of love and grace.....

Stefan Rinass <st@...> wrote:
I�ve also done the Mod for the Poly-800, but imo it doesn�t help much to
improve the sound. It is a nice feature to be able to increase the Reso
until the Filter roars, but to be honest: Who uses more than 50% Reso
for a -useful- sound?

Without effects it sound generally crappy, compared to other Synths of
this time. The biggest mistake of the Poly-800 was its "emulated"
sawtooth-WF and no PW/PWM-Modulation.

Stef

fx maletras wrote:

>
> Good job Chris !
> What happens to the original settings for cut-off and
> reso, do you use knobs with central clicks?
> BTW, is there any similar mods for Poly61?
>
> --- Chris Strellis <synthasy2000@...> wrote:
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> Greeting to you die hard Korg fans,
>
> I have many synths and samplers but I only recently
> got my Poly 800
> and I haven't played with one of those since 1986!
>
> It was a bit tatty and one key on the keyboard did't
> work but I fixed
> that. I changed the battery - fortunately it was a
> late model 800.
>
> I cleaned her up and added the infamous Moog Slayer
> mod to it for
> knob control for VCF cut off and resonance.
>
> For pics and sound samples head to:
>
> www.strellis.com/poly800.html
>
> As a bonus, there is a set of patches in mp3 format to
> download and
> load into your 800. These are from a defunct UK
> magazine called
> Electronic Soundmaker from 1985.
>
> For more info on this magazine including a review of
> these patches
> and to get the CD:
>
> www.strellis.com/escm.html
>
> If you are into synths generally from this period
> including
> Synclaviers and Fairlights you may want to check out
> this DVD:
>
> www.strellis.com/synthhistory.html
>
> Best regards
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-04-01 by Chris Strellis

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, fx maletras <fx_maletras@y...> wrote:
>
> Good job Chris !

Thank you. It is very easy to do - provided you know what end of a
soldering iron to hold ;)

> What happens to the original settings for cut-off and
> reso,

They act in tandem. For example, if you want more resonance then you
can either turn up the knob or the res parameter. It only self
oscillates with reso paramater greater than 13 and the res knob full
up.

In other words, if the knob went 0 to 10 and the parameter went 0 to
10, together you can go 0 to 20 :)

Then the EG and MG can push it further still!

> do you use knobs with central clicks?

Nope - the midway position is equivalent to knob contribution = OFF.

> BTW, is there any similar mods for Poly61?

I have the schematics and I've had a quick look. There is a
resonance adjust trimmer (VR104?) AND an cut off freq trimmer VR103.
I'd say yes it could be done :)

The scans I have aren't the best quality :(

Cheers

Chris

Re: Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-04-01 by Chris Strellis

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Rinass <st@r...> wrote:
> I´ve also done the Mod for the Poly-800, but imo it doesn´t help
much to
> improve the sound. It is a nice feature to be able to increase the
Reso
> until the Filter roars, but to be honest: Who uses more than 50%
Reso
> for a -useful- sound?

Depends on what music you make - for you it wasn't useful - for
others yes it is.

It won't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear ;)

> Without effects it sound generally crappy, compared to other Synths
of
> this time.

What synths are you comparing it with? It was very cheap at the time.

> The biggest mistake of the Poly-800 was its "emulated"
> sawtooth-WF and no PW/PWM-Modulation.

Agreed 100% and no Osc sync and of course - just the one filter but
then again - it's a budget poly.

You could get a good monosynth at the time but this was about the
only poly option.

Cheers

Chris

Re: Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-04-01 by Chris Strellis

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, x x <alienxxx2002@y...> wrote:
> I enjoy playing the filter sweeps live running around I must agree
the resonance is like a monster set to loud I have the speaker blower
patch for clubs that ill never play again it will blow out speakers
and make people run...I also urge everyone to do the noise mod to so
you have three mods to do . Live its fun to jam out on.I must however
admit to warmth of the poly 800 it takes some love but i can get a
juno style bass and moog etc with ears that have heard the machines
of love and grace.....

You MUST add a limiter to the output if you are going to anything
like this.

But it is kinda fun and dangerous :)

Cheers

Chris

Re: [DW8000] Re: Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-04-01 by fx maletras

>> BTW, is there any similar mods for Poly61?

> I'd say yes it could be done :)
> The scans I have aren't the best quality :(

Do you think you could put them in the group's files?

I have a dying poly61 so quite willing to try
experimental mod as nothing to loose (if i can
resurect the keys first).

If all 6 filters had a common voltage reference, you
should be abble to control them at once from a single
knob. Is that what you were saying?





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Re: [DW8000] Re: Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-04-01 by Stefan Rinass

Chris Strellis wrote:

>
> You could get a good monosynth at the time but this was about the
> only poly option.


Yup, for this money - correct. The only cheap Poly-Solution of this time
was something self-made, but they were mostly even not able to store
presets. In my opinion are (from the technical and possibilities side
seen) the Polysix or the Poly-61 nearest neighbour to the Poly-800. Both
are also not that good (as mostly everyone believes) but had a
completely different characteristic sound. The Polysix sounds imo more
analogue (fatter).

My personal favourite is the Akai AX-73, even before the Roland
JX8-P/Polysix; it can produce damn good basslines/strings/leads and has
a relative noise-free chorus, even if it has less modulation
possibilities compared to the JX8-P.

Stef

Re: [DW8000] Re: Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-04-01 by Bob Rossa

I sold someone a poly61 13 years ago, rehooked up with
them and the thing had been sitting in their closet
ever since. They just gave it to me about two months
ago.
It still has the sounds in it I programmed way back
when.
Many keys didn't work.
I took it apart, cleaned the key pads and contacts
with q-tips and alcohol and they all work perfectly
now. I have to change the battery which is amazingly
still working fine.
It is very fun to play with and I think some of the
sounds its capable of are solid.
I wouldn't recommend it as your only synth by any
means
Bob
--- fx maletras <fx_maletras@...> wrote:
>
> >> BTW, is there any similar mods for Poly61?
>
> > I'd say yes it could be done :)
> > The scans I have aren't the best quality :(
>
> Do you think you could put them in the group's
> files?
>
> I have a dying poly61 so quite willing to try
> experimental mod as nothing to loose (if i can
> resurect the keys first).
>
> If all 6 filters had a common voltage reference, you
> should be abble to control them at once from a
> single
> knob. Is that what you were saying?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [DW8000] Re: Introduction and yet another Moog Slayer Poly 800 :)

2005-04-02 by fx maletras

--- Bob Rossa <rrossa3005@...> wrote:
>
> I sold someone a poly61 13 years ago.
> Many keys didn't work.
> I took it apart, cleaned the key pads and contacts
> with q-tips and alcohol and they all work perfectly
> now. I have to change the battery which is
> amazingly still working fine.

The keys on mine are beyond redemption after too many
alcoholic clean-ups. Now, I only have 3 or 4 working
keys!!! This dead key problem is a real curse. The
keys are the most important and vulnerable external
part on a synth.
In my view, this was a real design fault from Korg.
At the time, Roland made a much better decision by
using proper metal/metal contacts on the Junos. I have
had a juno6 for donkeys years and never ever had once
a sinlge bad key. It just does the job a hell lot
better than stupid carbon rubbers.



It makes an otherwise *not so bad* keyboard into a
completely useless, unwanted Must buy the carbon-paste
repair kit thingy.







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