Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Can anyone give me ideas on how to add more pads to my dtxpress II?  
From what I can tell, I can plug the kick cable into the '9/10' extra 
input & plug an additional pad to the 'pad in' on the kick itself.  
Then I could use the now vacant kick input on the module to plug in 
yet another pad; giving me the capability to add a total of two more 
pads to the set.

Is there a better way?  Also, is there a way to add more than two 
extra pads without buying a seperate module?

--- Timothy & Jessamyn wrote:
> Can anyone give me ideas on how to add more pads to my
> dtxpress II? From what I can tell, I can plug the kick
> cable into the '9/10' extra input & plug an additional
> pad to the 'pad in' on the kick itself.  Then I could
> use the now vacant kick input on the module to plug in 
> yet another pad; giving me the capability to add a total
> of two more pads to the set.

That's one way. More convenient (in my opinion) is to use an insert 
cable or "splitter" to put two mono pads on 9/10.

> Also, is there a way to add more than two 
> extra pads without buying a seperate module?

Two options are open to you. You could buy a trigger-to-MIDI 
converter, such as the Roland TMC-6 or (now discontinued) PM-16, both 
of which you can get on eBay, the latter for silly money now. You 
would then need to dabble in the arts of MIDI.

Or, you could take my route: cheat. I have taken to splitting cymbal 
inputs to a stereo cymbal and another mono pad. For example, I have a 
mono cymbal pad split into my stereo ride cymbal - I use the edge on 
the stereo as a crash, and the other as a ride (same sound as the bow 
on the stereo pad). The benefit is not another "input" in this case, 
but cymbals mounted in natural positions for crash and ride. I also 
have a fifth tom split into another. Again, crash on the rim of the 
cymbal but the bow of the cymbal (and therefore the tom pad) as an 8" 
tom. Many benefits, and one drawback: mis-hit the cymbal and your 
well-placed crash is replaced by a tom strike!

You really should go back through the archives. As you can imagine, 
these questions get asked a LOT.

Stewart

---  Stewart wrote:

> Also, is there a way to add more than two 
> extra pads without buying a seperate module?

 Simularly, you can take two PCY65S stereo pads and connect them together
with a standard stereo Y-splitter cable and place one on the left side of
your kit and one on the right side, have two crash cymbals with bow and edge
voices (that will be the same for both pads) and still maintain choking on
both as well.
 
OGD
 
 
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Wait...are you saying you can split the crash or ride input into two 
stereo pads so you can connect two stereo pads into each and get the 
bow/edge sounds and still choke? If you can, can you change the 
sounds on those sharing a stereo input. This sounds like it can't be 
done...splitting a stereo input into two stereo inputs and allow 
multiple sounds.

-Zack-

P.S. You can always do what I am doing, putting a PCY65S in the 
factory ride input and splitting 9/10 into the ride and adding a bell 
pad. I will probably buy a second module or the converter soon. (Am 
kinda hoping another company comes out with a converter so I don't 
have to pay Roland prices.)

If you take a two PCY65S cymbal pads and take a Y-stereo cable (similar to
what you would use to split a stereo headphone jack out of an amplifier to
use with two stereo headphones, not the typical Y-insert cable that splits a
stereo to a mono-left/mono-right output) and plug it into input no. 7. The
voice you assign for the pad will be the same for both pads and the voice
you assign for the rim will be the same for both rims, but you now will have
two crash cymbals in your kit, even though they will have the same voices
for both. And choking will work on both cymbals. The down side is, of
course, that both cymbals will have the same voices, but you get a crash for
the left and a crash for the right side of you kit. 
 
OGD 

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From: supernovanexus [mailto:supernovanexus@...] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:04 PM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: how to add more pads?


Wait...are you saying you can split the crash or ride input into two 
stereo pads so you can connect two stereo pads into each and get the 
bow/edge sounds and still choke? If you can, can you change the 
sounds on those sharing a stereo input. This sounds like it can't be 
done...splitting a stereo input into two stereo inputs and allow 
multiple sounds.

-Zack-

P.S. You can always do what I am doing, putting a PCY65S in the 
factory ride input and splitting 9/10 into the ride and adding a bell 
pad. I will probably buy a second module or the converter soon. (Am 
kinda hoping another company comes out with a converter so I don't 
have to pay Roland prices.)



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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "supernovanexus" 
<supernovanexus@y...> wrote:
> Wait...are you saying you can split the crash or ride input into 
two 
> stereo pads so you can connect two stereo pads into each and get 
the 
> bow/edge sounds and still choke? If you can, can you change the 
> sounds on those sharing a stereo input. This sounds like it can't 
be 
> done...splitting a stereo input into two stereo inputs and allow 
> multiple sounds.

Zack,

No. The point that Stewart and OGD were making is that you can split 
these inputs, but you'll only get the same sounds. The advantage is 
that you have these sounds on either side of you when you need them.

Ed

That's what I thought. I want to assign two different voices, so I'll 
go with my original plan.

-Zack-