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2000-10-19 by Herb
Hey guys I decided to take the DTXpress to live gig this Friday, if anyone is from long island its at Shaker27 on sunrise Highway, anyway. I need help. I got everything to sound pretty good, except for the hi hat. it sounds very electronic, like some R and B salt and peppa hi hat. Anyone got any tips on how to tweak it up to sound good, other wise I'm just going to use a real hi hat Thanks
2000-10-19 by Sanctum
The hi hat voices tend to have very short decay times as defaults, try lengthening these for a start. The best sound I get is if I crossfade two voices, a long decay semi closed voice and a short decay fully closed voice. In fact I use exactly the same voice, but change the decay time. With the longer decay voice coming through with the stronger hits it plays more like a real hi hat as you crash on the lip rather than ride the top surface. You could also drop the root note a few tones, this gives a more realistic tone too. An alternative is to mix together the voices of a hi hat and a ride bell, a quiet long decay bell underneath the main hi hat voice will give a sound closer to jazz hats. Big and important point! Make sure you know exactly how your DTXpress is going to sound live! The sounds of the DTXpress can be very different when heard through a PA compared to headphones. I had particular problems getting the bass sorted, just too much bottom end which my headphones weren't reproducing. If you don't have your own PA, then make sure you know where the bass and treble adjustments are on the DTXpress, they could save you from acute embarrassment. Nothing worse than spending ages setting up the perfect sounds only to have it blown to hell by a PA with big bass or no top. Just don't panic, and all should be well. PS - Don't forget the power supply!! :) -----Original Message----- From: Herb <herb@...> To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com> Date: 19 October 2000 17:06
Subject: [DTXpress] Live show on Friday!!!Help >Hey guys > >I decided to take the DTXpress to live gig this Friday, if anyone is from >long island its at Shaker27 >on sunrise Highway, anyway. I need help. I got everything to sound pretty >good, except for the hi hat. it sounds very electronic, like some R and B >salt and peppa hi hat. Anyone got any tips on how to tweak it up to sound >good, other wise I'm just going to use a real hi hat > >Thanks > > > >Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress >
2000-10-19 by herb@broadfield.com
thanks for the info, I seem to have lost my instruction manual, can you tell me how to set up the cross fade? I might just use real hi hats, I'm getting nervous about the sound, I set them up last week and practiced with them through a huge PA, they sounded great!!! but thats not the PA we are going to use that night so I'm kinda freakin! on how it is going to sound. thanks for the tips though. Herb --- In DTXpress@egroups.com, "Sanctum" <sanctum@b...> wrote: > The hi hat voices tend to have very short decay times as defaults, try > lengthening these for a start. > The best sound I get is if I crossfade two voices, a long decay semi closed > voice and a short decay fully closed voice. In fact I use exactly the same > voice, but change the decay time. > With the longer decay voice coming through with the stronger hits it plays > more like a real hi hat as you crash on the lip rather than ride the top > surface. > You could also drop the root note a few tones, this gives a more realistic > tone too. > An alternative is to mix together the voices of a hi hat and a ride bell, a > quiet long decay bell underneath the main hi hat voice will give a sound > closer to jazz hats. > > Big and important point! > Make sure you know exactly how your DTXpress is going to sound live! The > sounds of the DTXpress can be very different when heard through a PA > compared to headphones. > I had particular problems getting the bass sorted, just too much bottom end > which my headphones weren't reproducing. > If you don't have your own PA, then make sure you know where the bass and > treble adjustments are on the DTXpress, they could save you from acute > embarrassment. Nothing worse than spending ages setting up the perfect > sounds only to have it blown to hell by a PA with big bass or no top. > Just don't panic, and all should be well. > > PS - Don't forget the power supply!! :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Herb <herb@b...> > To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com> > Date: 19 October 2000 17:06 > Subject: [DTXpress] Live show on Friday!!!Help > > > >Hey guys > > > >I decided to take the DTXpress to live gig this Friday, if anyone is from > >long island its at Shaker27 > >on sunrise Highway, anyway. I need help. I got everything to sound pretty > >good, except for the hi hat. it sounds very electronic, like some R and B > >salt and peppa hi hat. Anyone got any tips on how to tweak it up to sound
> >good, other wise I'm just going to use a real hi hat > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Community email addresses: > > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > > >Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > >
2000-10-20 by Sanctum
Herb, to set up the cross fade go to the voice menu, set V1 to one voice, then highlight the "1" (V"1" that is) and change it to "2" (V"2") Now you are setting up the second voice, set this to whatever you want as usual, now scroll down the pages until you come to "XFADE", here you can cycle through different cross fade patterns, from a smooth sweep between the two to an abrupt jump, the change is based on the velocity of the strike, so if you're always playing at 99% then this may not give very good results. I tend to play around the 50-70% mark so I use a high blending crossfade to give me the higher velocity voices like rimshots. Crossfade is something you have to play with, so I wouldn't use it for tonight and expect it all to go smoothly, I'd suggest you chicken out and go with real high hats, that's what I'd do in your situation. I know it isn't what you want to hear, but there you go. Maybe if you give the crossfade a try and get the sound you want straight off then you will be OK, but take some real hats just in case. Before you begin digging into crossfade, have you adjusted the decay settings of the standard voice? This makes a big difference to the sound and gives a much better feeling of realism. Have fun, hope all goes well. -----Original Message----- From: herb@... <herb@...> To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com> Date: 19 October 2000 19:32
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Live show on Friday!!!Help >thanks for the info, I seem to have lost my instruction manual, can >you tell me how to set up the cross fade? I might just use real hi >hats, I'm getting nervous about the sound, I set them up last week >and practiced with them through a huge PA, they sounded great!!! but >thats not the PA we are going to use that night so I'm kinda freakin! >on how it is going to sound. thanks for the tips though. > >Herb > > > >--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, "Sanctum" <sanctum@b...> wrote: >> The hi hat voices tend to have very short decay times as defaults, >try >> lengthening these for a start. >> The best sound I get is if I crossfade two voices, a long decay >semi closed >> voice and a short decay fully closed voice. In fact I use exactly >the same >> voice, but change the decay time. >> With the longer decay voice coming through with the stronger hits >it plays >> more like a real hi hat as you crash on the lip rather than ride >the top >> surface. >> You could also drop the root note a few tones, this gives a more >realistic >> tone too. >> An alternative is to mix together the voices of a hi hat and a ride >bell, a >> quiet long decay bell underneath the main hi hat voice will give a >sound >> closer to jazz hats. >> >> Big and important point! >> Make sure you know exactly how your DTXpress is going to sound >live! The >> sounds of the DTXpress can be very different when heard through a PA >> compared to headphones. >> I had particular problems getting the bass sorted, just too much >bottom end >> which my headphones weren't reproducing. >> If you don't have your own PA, then make sure you know where the >bass and >> treble adjustments are on the DTXpress, they could save you from >acute >> embarrassment. Nothing worse than spending ages setting up the >perfect >> sounds only to have it blown to hell by a PA with big bass or no >top. >> Just don't panic, and all should be well. >> >> PS - Don't forget the power supply!! :) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Herb <herb@b...> >> To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com> >> Date: 19 October 2000 17:06 >> Subject: [DTXpress] Live show on Friday!!!Help >> >> >> >Hey guys >> > >> >I decided to take the DTXpress to live gig this Friday, if anyone >is from >> >long island its at Shaker27 >> >on sunrise Highway, anyway. I need help. I got everything to >sound pretty >> >good, except for the hi hat. it sounds very electronic, like some >R and B >> >salt and peppa hi hat. Anyone got any tips on how to tweak it up >to sound >> >good, other wise I'm just going to use a real hi hat >> > >> >Thanks >> > >> > >> > >> >Community email addresses: >> > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com >> > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com >> > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com >> > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com >> > >> >Shortcut URL to this page: >> > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress >> > > > > >Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress >