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too much gain?

too much gain?

2003-07-30 by jtatsuoka

Hi everyone,
Just got the DTxpress today but I have been lurking for a while.  Has
any one had the problem of medium hits on a non Yamaha pad 
producing 99% velocity?  With the input gain =99 mvel = 0 and placing
 a 20k pot carefully tweaked until 99% is achieved only on the 
hardest hits (about 16k for my roland-clone pad ),  I'm able to get a
near-real-snare response in velocity!  What a difference from the D4 
I've been using.  Unless I'm missing something, (i've only had the
dtspress for a day!) it looks like I will have to build an
attenuation box for all my inputs.
Are all Yamaha pad users getting 99% only on the loudest hits? 
Jun

Re: [DTXpress] Re: too much gain?

2003-07-30 by Vernon Graner

Also, don't forget to investigate the DIP switches on the back of the
module. IIRC, they are a "pre-scaler" for the inputs that dhould allow
you to get the dynamic range into the center of your playing style... :)

Vern

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liberatusvirus said:
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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jtatsuoka" <jtatsuoka@y...> wrote:
>> it looks like I will have to build an
>> attenuation box for all my inputs.
>> Are all Yamaha pad users getting 99% only on the loudest hits?
>
> Hi Jun,
>
> The attenuation box is an interesting approach, but I wonder if it's
> necessary. You haven't had the DXTpress that long. Twiddling with
> min. vel. and gain, as well as your technique, should be able to
> create a situation in which you're not getting bombarded with 99
> every time that you hit a pad (the dreaded machine gun effect).
> Crossfading, in fact, works on the principle that you can vary the
> velocity of hits to create different responses from the triggers.
> One very important thing you learn with e-drums is that they are a
> finesse instrument. Sheer power reaches the law of diminishing
> returns much more quickly with electronic triggers than with
> acoustic percussion. Before you start building extra gear to mediate
> between the module and pads, you might get to know what you already
> have a little better (then maybe you can build the box).
>
> Ed
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Re: too much gain?

2003-07-30 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jtatsuoka" <jtatsuoka@y...> wrote:
> it looks like I will have to build an
> attenuation box for all my inputs.
> Are all Yamaha pad users getting 99% only on the loudest hits? 

Hi Jun,

The attenuation box is an interesting approach, but I wonder if it's 
necessary. You haven't had the DXTpress that long. Twiddling with 
min. vel. and gain, as well as your technique, should be able to 
create a situation in which you're not getting bombarded with 99 
every time that you hit a pad (the dreaded machine gun effect). 
Crossfading, in fact, works on the principle that you can vary the 
velocity of hits to create different responses from the triggers. 
One very important thing you learn with e-drums is that they are a 
finesse instrument. Sheer power reaches the law of diminishing 
returns much more quickly with electronic triggers than with 
acoustic percussion. Before you start building extra gear to mediate 
between the module and pads, you might get to know what you already 
have a little better (then maybe you can build the box).

Ed

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