ED: Diff between Pintech CC102 & AX14
2003-06-16 by brown8700
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2003-06-16 by brown8700
Ed: I think you have a Pintech AX14. Is that correct? If so, are there fundamental differences between the CC102 and the AX14 other than the shell type and size? I love the CC101s for toms, but have never really achieved a good response for the 102 as a snare. This despite trying evry possible trigger parameter known to man. In fact, I've gone back to using the Yammy snare pad. Stephen
2003-06-17 by liberatusvirus
Stephen, Scott and I have the AX14S. Both of us have reported liking it quite a bit. Sometimes when I play it, I almost get lost in the illusion that it's an acoustic, but I was never terribly unhappy with the 102ST either, except for size. The only problem that I've ever had with the AX14S (I think Scott has had it as well) is that it is liable to choke itself if one stick is still lying on it when the other one is hitting it,especially on rolls and rudiments. It doesn't happen often, and a little bit of care prevents it from happening at all. Anyway, what I like about it is that on a separate stand, I can get something like positional response from it when the trigger settings are right. For example, I can do a tight pressed roll on the edge of the drum, with escalating dynamics, that reminds me of what can be done on an acoustic. It isn't perfect by any means, but it's a nice feel. The kind of woven head seems to make a difference to its response. A Pintech head, for example, is bouncier, allowing a finer, quicker touch that some people consider slightly inaccurate; I actually think of it as jazzier. I have a Hart two-ply on it now, and it behaves more like a rock snare that way. As a mid-priced high end snare, the AX`4S is certainly worth the money. The equivalent Roland, which is 12", may be more responsive, but I've only played it through the TD10. The difference in module may not allow for an accurate comparison. Walt says that the extra cash for the DTXtreme 12" snare is a genuine improvement in terms of trigger reliability. I've never used it, but I trust Walt's judgment completely. So the AX14S apparently isn't the last word, but it is a sound value, in every sense of the word. The DTXTU could well be the limiting factor in this case. As wonderful as we all know it to be, it is a little rough around the edges, especially as you become more and more familiar with it and get a better sense of what you might be missing. Ed --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700" <brown8700@a...> wrote: > Ed: > I think you have a Pintech AX14. Is that correct? > If so, are there fundamental differences between the CC102 and the > AX14 other than the shell type and size? I love the CC101s for toms, > but have never really achieved a good response for the 102 as a > snare. This despite trying evry possible trigger parameter known to > man. In fact, I've gone back to using the Yammy snare pad. > Stephen