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Quick way to change the overall volume of a pad?

Quick way to change the overall volume of a pad?

2003-06-05 by Vernon Graner

Ok, so this may be a silly question, but some of you get to play with the
module more than I do... :)

I have had to do a factory reset more than once due to strange happenings
with my module (lots of static electricity in the room where I have the
kit).  And, as expected, I lose all my custom kits. However, when I go to
recreate them one of the first things I do is change the hi-hat volume to
be much higher since IMHO, the factory default is *way* to low. So, on to
the question:

Is it possible to apply a "global" volume boost that would make the
sounds assigned to the hi-hat pad (Closed/Open/HalfOpen/FootClosed) *all*
louder, no matter what kit I select? I don't want to change the
sensitivity of the pad or the gain as I am getting goods responsiveness
from the hat pad and I don't want to fight the "self/rejection
specific/rejection wars". I just want the hat to be *louder* for ALL kits
(like you can do with the kick and snare volumes). For now, I just go to
a kit, adjust all the hat sounds way up and then save it as a custom kit.
It's effective, but cumbersome and I'd like to find an alternate route...
Any ideas?

Vern

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RE: [DTXpress] Quick way to change the overall volume of a pad?

2003-06-05 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Vern,

There may be, but nothing is coming to mind.  When I go to setup a new kit I
always start from scratch. I go in and set the volume for everything at 70.
(OK , I know go ahead say it " Are you nuts??"  Heres my logic:

It comes from the factory with most volumes set up in the high range. So if
all the pads are set at say in the range of 100 and the maximum volume is
127, then the maximum sound level difference that can be achieved between
pads is only 27 percent (one pad at 100 the other at 127). On the other hand
if you set all the pad volumes at 70 for the base level, you can achieve an
81 PERCENT increase in sound level on specific pads (hihat, bellpad) over
the other pads. In fact my snare,bass are at 75, other toms at 70, some
cymbals at 70, 80 or 90, hihat at 90-110, cymbal bells at 100-120. This
gives me killer cymbal bell sounds and a nice loud tight hihat sound that
stands out above everything. I then let the mixer headphone amp do want it's
good at doing when listening through the headphones and let the KC500 amp
take care of the volume levels when playing normally. By sending lower
volume levels through the module and into the mixer and lower volumes out
the mixer to the amp, it gives me a cleaner sound. 

Of course if you are bring cd/MP3 music through the aux-in and are just
using the internal headphone amp in the module, you may not get the volume
that is need for the loud heavy metal stuff. Before I got my Mackie mixer, I
was using a $30 preamp (Radio Shack hold over from when I needed it for use
with a turntable) out of the modules for both headphone use and amplifier
use to boost the volume. 

I know what you mean about ghost and spirits getting into the module. I have
had one module just stop sending sound out and I would sit down and go
through two modules sitting side by side and have every setting match and
get sound out from one but not from the other. The game port/midi cable and
the dtxchange programs is the only way to recover and upload the kit back
into the module (without having to re-enter the settings manually).

The cable I used originally came with a cheap cd music writing/recording
program that is available for about $30 at a discount club
(http://www.voyetra.com/site/products/skits/cmsk.asp  Computer Music Starter
Kit) that I had gotten for use with a midi keyboard. Found at it work great
with the DtxpressII. I now use the midiman usb-midi 4x4 box.


Well, I'm off for long weekend. Have a safe weekend.

OldGuyDrummer 



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
> Sent:	Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:51 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] Quick way to change the overall volume of a pad?
> 
> Ok, so this may be a silly question, but some of you get to play with the
> module more than I do... :)
> 
> I have had to do a factory reset more than once due to strange happenings
> with my module (lots of static electricity in the room where I have the
> kit).   And, as expected, I lose all my custom kits. However, when I go to
> recreate them one of the first things I do is change the hi-hat volume to
> be much higher since IMHO, the factory default is *way* to low. So, on to
> the question:
> 
> Is it possible to apply a "global" volume boost that would make the
> sounds assigned to the hi-hat pad (Closed/Open/HalfOpen/FootClosed) *all*
> louder, no matter what kit I select? I don't want to change the
> sensitivity of the pad or the gain as I am getting goods responsiveness
> from the hat pad and I don't want to fight the "self/rejection
> specific/rejection wars". I just want the hat to be *louder* for ALL kits
> (like you can do with the kick and snare volumes). For now, I just go to
> a kit, adjust all the hat sounds way up and then save it as a custom kit.
> It's effective, but cumbersome and I'd like to find an alternate route...
> Any ideas?
> 
> Vern
> 
> --
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE      | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer      | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services   | paying you? Of course, if the network
> vern@... www.txis.com   | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
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Re: Quick way to change the overall volume of a pad?

2003-06-05 by liberatusvirus

Vern,

That question certainly isn't silly. Volume control on the fly for 
each input is something you can get, or should get, as you climb 
higher on the module chain. Let's see what Yamaha offers in its next 
wave. By the way, recommending such features is something Walt and I 
were discussing some time ago as one way that we might profitably 
interact with the company. You'd think that free help like that from 
an eager consumer base would be welcome, to say the least.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> Ok, so this may be a silly question, but some of you get to play 
with the
> module more than I do... :)
> 
> I have had to do a factory reset more than once due to strange 
happenings
> with my module (lots of static electricity in the room where I 
have the
> kit).  And, as expected, I lose all my custom kits. However, when 
I go to
> recreate them one of the first things I do is change the hi-hat 
volume to
> be much higher since IMHO, the factory default is *way* to low. 
So, on to
> the question:
> 
> Is it possible to apply a "global" volume boost that would make the
> sounds assigned to the hi-hat pad 
(Closed/Open/HalfOpen/FootClosed) *all*
> louder, no matter what kit I select? I don't want to change the
> sensitivity of the pad or the gain as I am getting goods 
responsiveness
> from the hat pad and I don't want to fight the "self/rejection
> specific/rejection wars". I just want the hat to be *louder* for 
ALL kits
> (like you can do with the kick and snare volumes). For now, I just 
go to
> a kit, adjust all the hat sounds way up and then save it as a 
custom kit.
> It's effective, but cumbersome and I'd like to find an alternate 
route...
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> Any ideas?
> 
> Vern
> 
> --
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
> vern@t... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG

RE: [DTXpress] Re: Quick way to change the overall volume of a pad?

2003-06-05 by Mike Dunham

Hello, I know this is off topic. But has anyone ever had any luck using the
DTXpress Purely as a Trigger.. Ie. Run it into Cubase or Reason. I have been
trying to do this. With a little but minimal success

Peace out
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-----Original Message-----
From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@...] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:13 PM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Quick way to change the overall volume of a pad?

 

Vern,

That question certainly isn't silly. Volume control on the fly for 
each input is something you can get, or should get, as you climb 
higher on the module chain. Let's see what Yamaha offers in its next 
wave. By the way, recommending such features is something Walt and I 
were discussing some time ago as one way that we might profitably 
interact with the company. You'd think that free help like that from 
an eager consumer base would be welcome, to say the least.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> Ok, so this may be a silly question, but some of you get to play 
with the
> module more than I do... :)
> 
> I have had to do a factory reset more than once due to strange 
happenings
> with my module (lots of static electricity in the room where I 
have the
> kit).  And, as expected, I lose all my custom kits. However, when 
I go to
> recreate them one of the first things I do is change the hi-hat 
volume to
> be much higher since IMHO, the factory default is *way* to low. 
So, on to
> the question:
> 
> Is it possible to apply a "global" volume boost that would make the
> sounds assigned to the hi-hat pad 
(Closed/Open/HalfOpen/FootClosed) *all*
> louder, no matter what kit I select? I don't want to change the
> sensitivity of the pad or the gain as I am getting goods 
responsiveness
> from the hat pad and I don't want to fight the "self/rejection
> specific/rejection wars". I just want the hat to be *louder* for 
ALL kits
> (like you can do with the kick and snare volumes). For now, I just 
go to
> a kit, adjust all the hat sounds way up and then save it as a 
custom kit.
> It's effective, but cumbersome and I'd like to find an alternate 
route...
> Any ideas?
> 
> Vern
> 
> --
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
> vern@t... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG






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