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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Low volume

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Low volume

2000-04-18 by Mark T. Owen

Hey Manolo, Sorry we left you hanging. Here's some things
you can try.

1.VOICE menu: KIT Common, Volume. This is the master volume
control for the whole kit, range 0-127. Set it as high as
you can without distorting the audio output, when hitting
your hardest.(see 5 below) Not having tried the Cyrus , I
don't know what tolerance for input level vs.
sensitivity/impedance. Your speakers could be in danger, not

from volume but from square wave signals on peaks, caused by

overdriving the pre-amp input.

2. PLAY menu: page down one so you see TRIG=1 Medium. If you

change the value to 3 Easy, you will compress the dynamic
range, smoothing out the output. Your speakers will be safer

when you hit hard, yet your softer hits will be a little
louder. Similiar effect to using an outboard compressor.

3.UTILITIES menu: set VOL MODE to LIVE so that you can
easily turn up the snare and kick from the front panel.
In PRACTICE mode, you have to hold the shift button down
while adjusting the snare and kick volume: takes two
hands...

4.VOICE menu: VOL setting, Each pad can be turned up
individually, but you will lose dynamic range (difference
from soft to loud) Basically you are making softer hits
appear louder, so that may feel odd to play like this,
unless you carefully re-balance. Better to use option 2
above, as it is less likely to throw your kit out of
balance. (So it wouldn't be wise to set
every pad to 127!)

5. A final note on volume settings on the DTXpress and the
Cyrus One: It is quite acceptable to run the Cyrus volume
control wide open, or close to it, and control your master
volume at the DTXpress, as long as you are careful not to
switch sources, or plug/unplug any gear or pads while it is
turned up. I use my DTXpress straight into a 100W/ch power
amp (no gain controls) and regulate the output volume from
the front panel control of the orange box. I have my CD
player in the Aux in for playing along to practice tunes.
Works great

Hope this helps.

Manolo Dudes wrote:
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> --- In DTXpress@egroups.com, "Manolo Dudes" <mdudes@h...>
> wrote:
> >  Hi, guys... I'm a brand new user, but I'm somewhat
> dissapointed
> > with the volume I can get from the module. I'm not
> talking about
> > the headphones volume, which has been discussed to
> death, but
> > the volume I get from my amplifier.
> >
> > My signal path is DTXpress to medium-hi class home
> amplifier
> (Mission
> > Cyrus One) to Bose Acoustimass loudspeakers. Although I
> maxed the
> > volume control both in the amplifier and the module I
> get a VERY
> weak
> > output from the amp. If I use the headphones output from
> the DTX, I
> > get a *bit* more output, but distorted. I'm using the
> "Aux" input
> in
> > the amp. The amp volume seems OK using any other source
> (Discman,
> > Video, Walkman, etc... even my BOSS GT-3 guitar effects
> processor
> > sounds full and loud...)
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong?... Are there any
> "parameters" to
> increase
> > the output volume?...
> >
> > By the way, I connected it to a friend's Bass combo and
> it sounded
> > loud, full and rich! (DTX's mono output to amp's preamp
> input).
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance...
>
>
> Hey, guys... I still got the problem and no one answered!
>
> Please... have you got any idea on this?... I know that
> this module
> is
> supposed to be connected to mix board or a more sensitive
> amp like a
> keyboard amp, but I cannot believe that the Yamaha
> engineers didn't
> want their customers to use it with a simple home Hi-Fi.
> As a
> practicing instrument, it makes sense to connect it to the
> Stereo and
> jam along at home!
>
> Come on, guys!, I know you're all doing this, but how?...
> Am I doing
> anything wrong?
>
> mdudes@...
> >From sunny Spain.
>
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Low volume

2000-04-18 by Mark Owen

I just spoke to a friend who works for Mission/Cyrus here in Canada:
The Cyrus amps have no actual pre-amp stage. In simple terms, it is a 
power amp, with a function select and attenuator (volume control) for 
purest signal path.Most domestic hi-fi stuff has a pre-amp and power-
amp involved so that quieter signals can be pre-amplified before
being 
sent to the power amplifier. So running the Cyrus with the volume 
control wide open treats it as a basic power amplifier.  He says it 
actually sounds best this way...so go ahead and run your DTXpress as 
the pre-amp/volume control, and your Cyrus as a power amp. No sense 
having two volume controls in the signal path. Just remember to turn 
the Cyrus VC all the way down if you are making connections. (He made 
me say that.)


--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, "Mark T. Owen" <mtowen@h...>  wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>  
> Hey Manolo, Sorry we left you hanging. Here's some things
> you can try.
> 
> 1.VOICE menu: KIT Common, Volume. This is the master volume
> control for the whole kit, range 0-127. Set it as high as
> you can without distorting the audio output, when hitting
> your hardest.(see 5 below) Not having tried the Cyrus , I
> don't know what tolerance for input level vs.
> sensitivity/impedance. Your speakers could be in danger, not
> 
> from volume but from square wave signals on peaks, caused by
> 
> overdriving the pre-amp input.
> 
> 2. PLAY menu: page down one so you see TRIG=1 Medium. If you
> 
> change the value to 3 Easy, you will compress the dynamic
> range, smoothing out the output. Your speakers will be safer
> 
> when you hit hard, yet your softer hits will be a little
> louder. Similiar effect to using an outboard compressor.
> 
> 3.UTILITIES menu: set VOL MODE to LIVE so that you can
> easily turn up the snare and kick from the front panel.
> In PRACTICE mode, you have to hold the shift button down
> while adjusting the snare and kick volume: takes two
> hands...
> 
> 4.VOICE menu: VOL setting, Each pad can be turned up
> individually, but you will lose dynamic range (difference
> from soft to loud) Basically you are making softer hits
> appear louder, so that may feel odd to play like this,
> unless you carefully re-balance. Better to use option 2
> above, as it is less likely to throw your kit out of
> balance. (So it wouldn't be wise to set
> every pad to 127!)
> 
> 5. A final note on volume settings on the DTXpress and the
> Cyrus One: It is quite acceptable to run the Cyrus volume
> control wide open, or close to it, and control your master
> volume at the DTXpress, as long as you are careful not to
> switch sources, or plug/unplug any gear or pads while it is
> turned up. I use my DTXpress straight into a 100W/ch power
> amp (no gain controls) and regulate the output volume from
> the front panel control of the orange box. I have my CD
> player in the Aux in for playing along to practice tunes.
> Works great
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Manolo Dudes wrote:
> 
> > --- In DTXpress@egroups.com, "Manolo Dudes" <mdudes@h...>
> > wrote:
> > >  Hi, guys... I'm a brand new user, but I'm somewhat
> > dissapointed
> > > with the volume I can get from the module.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot in advance...
> >
> >
> > Hey, guys... I still got the problem and no one answered!
>
> >
> > Come on, guys!, I know you're all doing this, but how?...
> > Am I doing
> > anything wrong?
> >
> > mdudes@...
> > >From sunny Spain.

> > Shortcut URL to this page:
> >   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress

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