Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

On the 21st, I posted a question to the group about the Visu-lite 
high hat. I was a little puzzled that nobody here had anything to 
say about it, while the V-drum discussion group devotes a lot of 
attention to it. I just had a talk with Tom Pickard, who designed 
the Visu-lite products and runs the company. He said that his high-
hats were based primarily on the Roland modules and, to some extent, 
the Alessis ones. He's never had to consider Yamaha users because 
they haven't expressed much interest. He suspects that the polarity 
of his high hats as currently made may not be compatible with Yamaha 
modules, but he isn't sure. He'd need to get hold of the DTXPU 
and/or DTXTU to find out. I told him about this group of more than 
500 members who might like to have the Visu-lite high hats as an 
option for their kits. He said that he'd contact me with any 
information that he gets as soon as possible. I, for one, am excited 
by the prospect of the Visu-lite 1300 RHC-100 being available to use 
with a Yamaha module.

For those of you who aren't familiar with the Visu-lite high hat, it 
is the only one at this time that operates with two e-cymbals that 
open and close on an actual high hat stand. In other words, you play 
it just like you would an acoustic high hat. I won't go into the 
electronic details, but it is an ingenious design. There's a switch-
type assembly for open/close modules and a variable controller for 
modules that can sense open, close, and at least something in 
between. From what I can tell at this point, the DTXPU would qualify 
for the more versatile one, whereas the Alessis DM5 would need the 
simple switch. You can check them out at Visu-lite's website and 
find out what users think at the V-drum forum.

Here's hoping Tom's phone and email start flooding with Yamaha 
people, and we get the chance to use the high hat too.

yeah i have looked into using them before,and was told by a few 
different e-drum techs at music stores in my area that they wouldn't 
work right with the yamaha modules.. just like some of the hihat 
pedals (ex. the pintech hyperhat) won't work with yamaha modules 
either,but they can be modified to work with these modules,so 
hopefully there can be something done with the visualites in the same 
sense so they would be able to be used with the yamaha modules as 
well, i've been looking for that right hihat trigger set-up for my 
kit for a few yrs now,and i'm still just using a tp-60 pad.. it would 
be great to get that acoustic feel though.. i saw a post on here a 
while back about the pintech zenbals ,but i'm not sure how it would 
work for a hihat plus you can't mount it like the visualites (there's 
only one cymbal with the pintech) also i had emailed peter hart a 
while back about what hart may be having available ,and he claimed 
that hart is putting out a newer model of hihat trigger cymbal as 
well , i guess it's totally different than what they have now,since 
they have alot of e-drum users that have expressed they expected it 
to be more than what it ended up being ,so hopefully some good things 
will come from that way too.. i mean i'm not biased it's not just the 
name on something it gotta do the job well too... i do agree that the 
sensor pack switch that visualites has with there hihats is 
definately an excellent concept,and if they can have it be able to 
work with yamaha gear then that would be a great bonus.... thanks for 
the post on here about it man'

sam(otacon28)
--- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> On the 21st, I posted a question to the group about the Visu-lite 
> high hat. I was a little puzzled that nobody here had anything to 
> say about it, while the V-drum discussion group devotes a lot of 
> attention to it. I just had a talk with Tom Pickard, who designed 
> the Visu-lite products and runs the company. He said that his high-
> hats were based primarily on the Roland modules and, to some 
extent, 
> the Alessis ones. He's never had to consider Yamaha users because 
> they haven't expressed much interest. He suspects that the polarity 
> of his high hats as currently made may not be compatible with 
Yamaha 
> modules, but he isn't sure. He'd need to get hold of the DTXPU 
> and/or DTXTU to find out. I told him about this group of more than 
> 500 members who might like to have the Visu-lite high hats as an 
> option for their kits. He said that he'd contact me with any 
> information that he gets as soon as possible. I, for one, am 
excited 
> by the prospect of the Visu-lite 1300 RHC-100 being available to 
use 
> with a Yamaha module.
> 
> For those of you who aren't familiar with the Visu-lite high hat, 
it 
> is the only one at this time that operates with two e-cymbals that 
> open and close on an actual high hat stand. In other words, you 
play 
> it just like you would an acoustic high hat. I won't go into the 
> electronic details, but it is an ingenious design. There's a switch-
> type assembly for open/close modules and a variable controller for 
> modules that can sense open, close, and at least something in 
> between. From what I can tell at this point, the DTXPU would 
qualify 

> for the more versatile one, whereas the Alessis DM5 would need the 
> simple switch. You can check them out at Visu-lite's website and 
> find out what users think at the V-drum forum.
> 
> Here's hoping Tom's phone and email start flooding with Yamaha 
> people, and we get the chance to use the high hat too.

Hi Sam,

I saw a post in the vdrum forum, I think, by someone who was working 
with Peter Hart on a new high hat. If I'm not mistaken, it was along 
the lines of the Visu-lite, but don't quote me on it. Anyway, Tom at 
Visu-lite said that the polarity adjustment to accommodate Yamaha 
would not be difficult to make. If I manage to get one, you can bet 
that I'll report on it here. By the way, the favorable post about 
the Pintech Zenbal came from me. I had a little trouble seeing it as 
a high hat trigger, given its design, but who knows? 

Ed

--- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> yeah i have looked into using them before,and was told by a few 
> different e-drum techs at music stores in my area that they 
wouldn't 
> work right with the yamaha modules.. just like some of the hihat 
> pedals (ex. the pintech hyperhat) won't work with yamaha modules 
> either,but they can be modified to work with these modules,so 
> hopefully there can be something done with the visualites in the 
same 
> sense so they would be able to be used with the yamaha modules as 
> well, i've been looking for that right hihat trigger set-up for my 
> kit for a few yrs now,and i'm still just using a tp-60 pad.. it 
would 
> be great to get that acoustic feel though.. i saw a post on here a 
> while back about the pintech zenbals ,but i'm not sure how it 
would 
> work for a hihat plus you can't mount it like the visualites 
(there's 
> only one cymbal with the pintech) also i had emailed peter hart a 
> while back about what hart may be having available ,and he claimed 
> that hart is putting out a newer model of hihat trigger cymbal as 
> well , i guess it's totally different than what they have 
now,since 
> they have alot of e-drum users that have expressed they expected 
it 
> to be more than what it ended up being ,so hopefully some good 
things 
> will come from that way too.. i mean i'm not biased it's not just 
the 
> name on something it gotta do the job well too... i do agree that 
the 
> sensor pack switch that visualites has with there hihats is 
> definately an excellent concept,and if they can have it be able to 
> work with yamaha gear then that would be a great bonus.... thanks 
for 
> the post on here about it man'
> 
> sam(otacon28)
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > On the 21st, I posted a question to the group about the Visu-
lite 
> > high hat. I was a little puzzled that nobody here had anything 
to 
> > say about it, while the V-drum discussion group devotes a lot of 
> > attention to it. I just had a talk with Tom Pickard, who 
designed 
> > the Visu-lite products and runs the company. He said that his 
high-
> > hats were based primarily on the Roland modules and, to some 
> extent, 
> > the Alessis ones. He's never had to consider Yamaha users 
because 
> > they haven't expressed much interest. He suspects that the 
polarity 
> > of his high hats as currently made may not be compatible with 
> Yamaha 
> > modules, but he isn't sure. He'd need to get hold of the DTXPU 
> > and/or DTXTU to find out. I told him about this group of more 
than 
> > 500 members who might like to have the Visu-lite high hats as an 
> > option for their kits. He said that he'd contact me with any 
> > information that he gets as soon as possible. I, for one, am 
> excited 
> > by the prospect of the Visu-lite 1300 RHC-100 being available to 
> use 
> > with a Yamaha module.
> > 
> > For those of you who aren't familiar with the Visu-lite high 
hat, 
> it 
> > is the only one at this time that operates with two e-cymbals 
that 
> > open and close on an actual high hat stand. In other words, you 
> play 
> > it just like you would an acoustic high hat. I won't go into the 
> > electronic details, but it is an ingenious design. There's a 
switch-
> > type assembly for open/close modules and a variable controller 
for 
> > modules that can sense open, close, and at least something in 
> > between. From what I can tell at this point, the DTXPU would 
> qualify 
> > for the more versatile one, whereas the Alessis DM5 would need 
the 

> > simple switch. You can check them out at Visu-lite's website and 
> > find out what users think at the V-drum forum.
> > 
> > Here's hoping Tom's phone and email start flooding with Yamaha 
> > people, and we get the chance to use the high hat too.