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Re: [DTXpress] MIDI transmission causes noise?

2001-01-15 by Rich

Hey Dan, that's rather bizarre.  Let us know if the solution sticks.  I have
the same issue as I said before, so I am definitely interested.  I just
figured the OS was written poorly.  For me  the clicks only occur when midi
data is sent to the unit, not if its in "local on" mode.  I guess it is
possible a midi ground could interact with audio.  I am wondering why an OS
reset clears the problem for me but not you, and how it is possible for
software to create a grounding issue, but I'm glad you are getting a handle
on it.  Rich
Unique Sample CD Roms, Loops and SoundFonts
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Mowczan" <pinball@...>
To: <DTXpress@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [DTXpress] MIDI transmission causes noise?


> Hey everyone, last post on this topic, I found something that is a
solution,
> albeit something I need to learn more about.  And, wanted to send this to
> the people who responded and wanted to know what I found (mainly wether or
> not my unit was to be determined faulty).
>
> When I run my Roland KC-500 through a two to three prong adapter, the
> ticking disappears.  I ran across something similar when I set up my home
> theatre system.  The Klipsch subwoofer actually came with a three-to-two
> prong adapter, indicating it should be used if inexplicable noise appears,
> and they recommended getting a ground isolator for my cable line if this
> solved the problem.  It was the solution there, and it is in fact seeming
to
> be the solution here.  Of course, determining where the ground problem
> exists is critical to the safety of my equipment.
>
> Thanks for the friendly responses!
>
> -Dan
>
> --
> Dan Mowczan, pinball@...
>
> > From: Dan Mowczan <pinball@...>
> > Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:14:35 -0500
> > To: <DTXpress@egroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DTXpress] MIDI transmission causes noise?
> >
> > Shoot, no solution.  Even the 'pulse' during non-communication (which I
> > assume is some sort of watchdog to insure communication exists) pulse
right
> > through and after a reset.  I'm going to call Yamaha tommorrow and get
their
> > thoughts on it.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > --
> > Dan Mowczan, pinball@...
> >
> >> From: "Rich" <rich@...>
> >> Organization: Tweakheadz Audio Lab
> >> Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com
> >> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:41:47 -0600
> >> To: <DTXpress@egroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [DTXpress] MIDI transmission causes noise?
> >>
> >> Dan,
> >>
> >>
> >> I had the same problem.  What i think is going on is that the DTXpress
> >> internal memory management gets corrupted.  The solution is to reset
the
> >> machine by using the sequence of button pushes detailed in the manual.
You
> >> will lose all custom patches unless you save them via sysex 1st.  You
can
> >> load them back in after the reset.  They will still work and the pops
will
> >> be gone.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Rich
> >> Unique Sample CD Roms, Loops and SoundFonts
> >> Main site:  http://www.tweakheadz.com
> >> MP3 files:  http://www.mp3.com/tweakheadz
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dan Mowczan" <pinball@...>
> >> To: <DTXpress@egroups.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 8:42 PM
> >> Subject: [DTXpress] MIDI transmission causes noise?
> >>
> >>
> >>> I recently purchased a Roland UM-1 USB Midi interface so I could get
some
> >>> communications working with my PC for storing drum kits.  It's a cool
> >> little
> >>> interface, and fairly inexpensive ($49 at Edirol's site) if you want a
USB
> >>> type.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, the driver is crashing my Mac.  But, that's another story.
> >>>
> >>> I threw the driver on a PC and started working immediately.  I pulled
up a
> >>> MIDI file of some Piano and it played beautifully, except there was a
> >>> cackling coming from my amp, kind of a static or popping sound.  At
first
> >> I
> >>> thought 'Boy, these are some bad GM sounds', but after then
downloading
> >> some
> >>> kits from DTXpressions to play with, I hit the 'Send' key on DTXchange
and
> >>> during the entire send, the popping was occuring, this time at a much
> >> faster
> >>> speed, but only for the two seconds or so required to receive the kit.
It
> >>> seems that any MIDI data received causes an audio glitch in the
outputs.
> >>> The transmission worked properly, however.
> >>>
> >>> Then, I noticed anytime MIDI was hooked up, there is a slight ticking
from
> >>> my DTXpress brain in the neighborhood of 240-260bpm.  Disconnecting
the
> >>> Roland UM-1 from the MIDI cable, effectively powering it down, stops
the
> >>> ticking.  Shutting down the computer but leaving the cables connected
also
> >>> stops the ticking.  When the windows driver is running, the ticking
> >> occurs.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, I did a bulk dump of data from the DTXpress brain.  This I
can't
> >>> get to work at all.  The PC doesn't simply doesn't seem to see any
data.
> >>> During this, I get no popping or static through the amp however.
> >>>
> >>> In frustration, I swapped the MIDI cables in and out in case I did
> >> something
> >>> wrong, which didn't do a thing, but when they were swapped, I was
getting
> >> a
> >>> significant ground hum from my Amp that I wasn't before.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas on what's causing this?  I also can't seem to detect any of
this
> >>> through my headphone jack, but based on the volume output on it, I
can't
> >> say
> >>> for sure if it is there or not.
> >>>
> >>> -Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dan Mowczan, pinball@...
> >>>
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