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Re: Undesired rimshot!!

2003-04-22 by liberatusvirus

Gianluca,

Creating a second kit with a new snare may be the best idea with the 
Yamaha pads. I don't know what range of products you have in Italy, 
but a dual-zone snare, with separate piezos for rim and body, would 
also be a good solution; in addition to being bigger, a dual-zone 
pad's two triggers have completely independent settings. We have a 
few alternatives in the States. We also probably have access to more 
e-cymbals than you do. I can roll on my Visu-lite cymbals, for 
example, and create just the effect that you're trying to get on the 
Yamahas. Keep in touch with us; maybe we can help get you what you 
need. Acoustic cymbals would certainly make it inconvenient for you 
to play with headphones.

One way to use the DM5 would be as a second module to expand the 
Yamaha kit. You could run new pads and cymbals through it and into a 
mixer, which would also accept the DTX module with its pads. The DM5 
is less versatile than the DTX--no stereo inputs, less parameter 
control, and nonvariable hi hat--but some of its sounds are great, 
especially in a secondary role. If you used the DM5 that way, maybe 
you could add a second gum-rubber snare with a rim sound only and 
use it with your current Yamaha kit, avoiding the need to create 
another kit.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ppadana" <ppadana@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Gianluca,
> > 
> > Nice to hear from you, and your English is flawless. From what I 
> > recall, the trigger menu in the DTXpress doesn't distinguish 
> between 
> > pad and rim; you can't set them at different levels for 
separation. 
> > Since you seem to be hitting both when you hit hard, technique 
> might 
> > be the answer. The law of diminishing returns applies with e-
drums; 
> > after a point, increasing force does not pay dividends. You can 
> 
> Hi!
> Thanks for your answer!
> I think the main problem is that the external rim dedicated to 
> rimshot sound is too wide, so it's relatively easy to 
hit..perhaps, 
> if only a quarter of the pad were used for that sound, it would be 
> better..at least for the kind of music I do (soul and 70's disco)..
> Perhaps a solution would it be disabling the rimshot sound and 
using 
> the whole snare pad for one sound only..*AND* I could create 
another 
> drum set which is similar to this one, apart from the snare sound, 
> which could be a rimshot even if I hit the center of the pad..
> This is useful only if the part with rimshot is a well defined 
part 
> of the song (in my case "PROUD MARY":the beginning is very slow, 
and 
> I use the rimshot;then, after a small pause, (I change drumset 
and) 
> the song resumes,but tempo is fast and I use snare sound as usual..
> 
> As for as the cymbals problem..I see that the only solution is 
using 
> an acustic cymbal..it's a pity,because I hoped Yamaha simulated 
> cymbals in every aspect..the choke itself sometimes starts if I 
just 
> hit the edge with my stick..ok,ok, I have to play knowing what I'm 
> playing..but I don't like the fact that I must modify my way of 
> playing because of the instrument changing..:-(
> 
> A friend of mine just lent me an Alesis DM5 drum module too.I'm 
> wondering if I can use it in my drumset someway...
> 
> Wow, I said too many things :-)
> Bye Gianluca

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