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Re: Undesired rimshot!!

2003-04-22 by liberatusvirus

Hi Gianluca,

Nice to hear from you, and your English is flawless. From what I 
recall, the trigger menu in the DTXpress doesn't distinguish between 
pad and rim; you can't set them at different levels for separation. 
Since you seem to be hitting both when you hit hard, technique might 
be the answer. The law of diminishing returns applies with e-drums; 
after a point, increasing force does not pay dividends. You can 
verify my point by checking the numerical velocity reading on the 
gain/min. velocity page in the trigger menu when you hit a pad. You 
can peak at 99 far short of using your full strength. My suggestion 
would be to adjust your gain either downward to keep your hard hits 
from making incidental rim noise or upward so that you can hit more 
softly with more precision (that is, not striking the rim at the 
same time). You might also raise the min. velocity so that lighter 
hits won't trigger the rim so easily. (If you were having the 
opposite problem--triggering the pad when you hit the rim--I'd first 
recommend disabling the rim to pad feature in the voice menu, if it 
were activated.)

I know what you mean about the Yamaha cymbals, but unless I'm much 
mistaken, MIDI adjustment won't help. You can try to alter the gate 
time of the cymbals in the voice menu, but I think the result, at 
best, will be to change the stopping and starting points of the 
sound, not to give you the continous cymbal wash that you're looking 
for. By the same token, if you disable key off, you might just get a 
cymbal that won't stop sounding at all--again, not a crescendo 
flourish. By lengthening the decay (lowering the level below 0), you 
might be able to diminish the rapid fire effect a bit; it's worth a 
try. Not all e-cymbals behave like the Yamahas in this respect, even 
at the default settings. But maybe other group members will have 
ideas about what to do.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ppadana" <ppadana@y...> wrote:
> Hi folks from Italy!
> I own a Dtxpress II since last tuesday, and I'm trying
> to understand how it works, and tuning its sounds to
> have my own drumset for using in my concerts..
> Just two questions: 
> 1)I noticed that I have some problems on two zone
> pads:for the snare, if I hit it hard, sometimes I can
> hear a rimshot..this is because the pad is very small,
> and the stick hits the rim... can I modify something,
> so that the rimshot sound is heared *ONLY* if I hit
> the pad under a certain power, and a normal snare
> sound is produced if I hit it hard? (sorry for my
> english!!)
> 2)With my acustic cymbals, I'm used to finish lots of
> songs hitting crash cymbals quickly and repeatedly
> (with a "shhhhhhhhhhhh" sound)..it seems this it's
> IMPOSSIBLE with PCY cymbals, because for every stroke
> I can hear the BEGINNING of the stroke,and the final
> sound is absolutely unrealistic! Is there a solution
> for this? I know, there is a MIDI note which
> riproduces just what I want, but I'd love to get it
> without changing anything in the drumset..
> Thanks,
> Gianluca(Italy)

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