Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I thought I smelled something burning. First of all, it won't be 
hard to integrate a PM-16; everything seems harder than it is when 
you know about it only secondhand. The long and short is that you 
simply connect via MIDI in and  MIDI out. Then it's just a matter of 
setting up the PM-16, or whatever you use, to its best advantage. 

On program changes: Let's say you've set things up in such a way 
that when you want to change to another kit on the DTX module, you 
have to change to another kit on the PM-16, too, to get the 
appropriate sounds (MIDI interfaces can use their triggers for 
different kits just like brains). You could use a trigger to move to 
another kit instead of pushing a button on the module or on the PM-
16. But I don't like to waste pads on program changes, or press a 
lot of buttons, so I only have one kit on my KITI that never has to 
change, even though I may change kits from time to time on the DTX. 

On crosstalk: The DTX module allows you to set rejection parameters 
in the trigger menu that protect triggers from interfering with each 
other. The KITI has its own parameters for minimizing crosstalk 
between its pads as well (I don't know about the PM-16's). I prefer 
to use triggers in the KITI that don't jostle each other, either 
because they aren't near each other on the rack or because their 
very nature shields them from crosstalk. It's a matter of keeping 
the fussiness level down. But if you can deal with these things in 
the DTX, you can deal with them elsewhere without too much trouble.

None of these issues should change your mind about expanding. They 
just go with the territory. You already use parameters on the DTX; 
you'll just have to use them again, more or less, on the PM-16. My 
strategy is to find ways of keeping that sort of activity down, but 
I can't eliminate it altogether. Nor would I expect to.


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven <realvast@s...>" 
<realvast@s...> wrote:
> Hey ed, now you got me thinking and that means more questions!  
What 
> do you mean you say you dont wanna use pads for program changes?  
> And about the crosstalk stuff, you say you want to use pads that 
are 
> on seperate stands or isolated enough to not need much help, why 
do 
> you say this?  I'm going to be using a pm-16 in the future and 
I'll 
> run into these kinds of problems too right?  I can simply connect 
my 
> module to the pm-16 and go from there correct?  I'm just wondering 
> if its a bigger hassle then I think it is working with another 
midi 
> controller.  Thanks!    
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Under'heaven,
> > 
> > You'll probably get a lot of different answers. I have seven 
extra 
> > triggers beyond what my module takes. My critera for what goes 
> > through my midiKITI (9 additional inputs) is a little complex. 
The 
> > first is that I don't want to use pads to signal program changes 
> if 
> > I don't have to; so I tend to farm out percussion that I want to 
> > have in all my kits: cross stick from my snare rim, splash, 
china, 
> > etc. The second criterion is to minimize crosstalk problems. The 
> > midiKITI Pro has a pretty good interference control, but why tax 
> it 
> > if you don't have to? I try to keep its inputs filled with 
> triggers 
> > that are either on separate stands or are isolated enough not to 
> > need much extra help. I also do not run triggers that interact 
> with 
> > one another through separate brains, because then you can't do 
> > anything about crosstalk when it happens. Two or more chatty 
> > triggers must be connected to the same unit in order to get the 
> > benefit of mutual rejection. These stragegies work for me 
because 
> my 
> > kits tend to be pretty conservative. I can do most of my fussing 
> on 
> > the main module without constantly having to make adjustments to 
> my 
> > supplementary triggers.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven 
> <realvast@s...>" 
> > <realvast@s...> wrote:
> > > Hey guys!  I really thinking about getting a pm-16 but it 
almost 
> > > seems like too many pads right?  I mean I could use more pads 
> but 
> > I 
> > > don't know if I need 16 more!  Anyways, I was wondering how 
many 
> > > pads you all use, which kind, and mainly for what?  Thanks!